Criminal Profiler Pat Brown Discusses the Casey Anthony Case

December 12, 2008

Investigation Discovery contacted top criminal profiler Pat Brown today and asked her to share her thoughts on how yesterday's discovery of child skeletal remains will affect Casey Anthony's cooperation in the case, if those remains are identified as that of Anthony's missing two-year-old daughter, Caylee.

"Casey Anthony, since she exhibits psychopathological behaviors and has a history of pathological lying, can be expected to change her story as is necessary to be of fullest benefit to her own survival," Brown said. "The original story of the babysitter/kidnapper served as a distraction to the more likely scenario that Casey had done something to Caylee and that Caylee was no longer alive. If she could get people to believe that Caylee was a missing child case, then the searches for Caylee would allow time for the body to decompose, the evidence to vanish, and the witnesses' memories to dwindle and become less credible. Then when the believability factor of that story began to slide, especially when evidence from the trunk indicated Caylee was dead, Casey still could hope the body wouldn’t be found, so she stuck to the story."

According to Brown, Casey will most likely meet with her attorney to determine which story she should move forward with, so as to get the least amount of time behind bars.

"If no evidence points to the house, then likely Casey will still claim someone else did it, but when the police were closing in, killed Caylee and tried to frame her (by placing the body close to her house)," Brown said. "If on the other hand, there is evidence that clearly implicates the Anthony home, then Casey will likely change the story to one of accidental death followed by an anguished and terrified mother trying to deal with a horrific situation. Of course, Casey’s behaviors of partying and such will not make her very lovable in the eyes of a jury. The lawyers may then go for the old line, ‘Yes, Casey is a disturbed woman, maybe even narcissistic, but she is not a coldblooded killer; she is merely a young, foolish girl who made a poor choice by --------fill in the blank -----leaving Caylee alone in the pool where she accidentally drowned, etc. etc."

Brown said that the strongest evidence against Anthony is the Internet searches for chloroform, neckbreaking and missing children. Those, Brown said, will show "clear premeditation."

"As to what might have been found with the child’s remains at the dump site in the woods, the most likely possibility would be the duct tape. I doubt the trash bag will be of much use because too much time has passed. If the body had been found quickly, then the bag might have been proven to belong to the same roll found in the house as the striations in the plastic are unique to each set of bags. However, so much time has passed I doubt the same set of bags would still be in the home; maybe the same brand, but not the exact same roll. The duct tape, however, could be more useful if some was torn off and the roll tossed back onto a shelf. If it hasn’t been used since, the actual location where it was torn off may match exactly to one of the ends found with the body."

In regards to other possible evidence, Brown had this to say:

"It is also always possible that some other item that actually belongs to Casey or the Anthony's was found at the site or in the bag. Casey doesn’t appear to be the brightest criminal (for if she killed Caylee and dumped her body she shouldn’t have chosen a location so close to home and at a spot where she has been known to frequent in the past). She could have accidentally left a piece of evidence at the dump site which unquestionably came from the home. She might have been in a rush and been careless or she might simply have been so arrogant she thought no one would ever find the dump site."

And where does the case go from here?

"I think Casey Anthony will finally get what’s coming to her, but she might not get as much as everyone wishes," Brown said. "We will have to see how all that pans out in court."

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Comments

[Lexi]

I really don't know if Casey will ever admit any wrongdoing....even if it was an accident. I have never seen anybody spin lies so quickly. She lied to the police about her job at Universal even as the police were entering the building with her on the way to her "office."

I am a mental health professional and some of my "certifiable" clients are not as good as Casey at the "lying" game.

[Ardra]

"Let justice be done, tho' the heavens fall."

I am hoping the body IS Caylee, because if it isn't, then there is another tragic death of another child to consider.

Duct tape is said to be remarkable at holding fingerprints on the sticky side, so I'm placing my hopes there for a slam-dunk piece of evidence that proves Casey did it.

I'm also kind of sad for all the other victims of violent crime that don't receive such high-priority treatment or concern, and get a fraction of the resources spent solving their cases that this one has.

[LI_Mom]

If by chance Casey's sentence is short enough to see her walking free before she's an old, old lady then I think she'll be forced to change her identity & find someplace to live where people won't recognize her.

Maybe she can go live in exile with Karla Holmolka... nobody wanted that psychopath around either.

It seems that Casey has no conscious & there's no telling what might cause her to plan the death or destruction of other people she might want out of her life in the future.

She truly deserves to be sentenced to LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE but I wonder if Baez might tell her her only hope is to take a plea and pretend it was just an accident.

The question is whether Casey & Cindy even have the ability to admit Casey has ANY guilt at all or whether they want to gamble that a jury might buy the make-believe nanny/kidnapper fantasy. Now is the time for George to explain to both women that it's time to give up all the lies & do what's necessary to get Casey the best deal they can.

[Erica S.]

David, thank you the interview with Pat Brown. I always enjoy hearing what the experts have to say.

[Barbara]

As you get older you learn to pay more attention to peoples actions than their words. What other story could Casey have used than the child was kidnapped? Otherwise, she should have known where the child was. Very disturbing was the jailhouse visit with her parents when she said " I'm fine. I haven't been crying in here. I read books and do other things to keep my mind off all this" It would be horrible if she somehow pulls this off. I feel sorry for the Grandparents Caylee was their "Sunshine" and their future

[Criminal Profiler Pat Brown]

History is indeed a major indication of what a person is capable of. There is NO such thing as out-of-character crime; we only can do what we can conceive of doing and are willing to do. Thought always comes before action even if just a few minutes before the action and a thought originates out of our brain; it is not beamed in by aliens.

While a psychopath might convince a particular person on a particular day that they are not harboring heinous thoughts, if one hangs around that psychopath long enough, the psychopath will spill bits and pieces of their concerning thinking. Many people were aware of Casey's lack of love toward her daughter and her desire to be rid of her. However, they either didn't quite believe they were perceiving Casey correctly, they just thought she was joking or expressing a temporary frustration, or they thought she would never actually physically do anything to Caylee.

Unfortunately, they were wrong.

[JohnLloydScharf]

This is as bad as the Jonbenet Ramsey case.

http://www.bouldercounty.org/newsroom/articlefiles/1256-Letter_to_John_Ramsey.pdf

That report on the body decomposition only includes SEVEN of the more than 400 a body gases puts out during decomposition. The gases named are scents included in some
cleaners.

The chloroform can be made by spilling chlorine bleach on nail polish remover (acetone). One of them could come from decomposing cabbage. These Ph.Ds at the Body Farm are
trying to prove the use of this pseudo science in forensics.

Likely, though, they left chloroform in the rug in testing as they tried to extract DNA from the rug. It is one of the components used for that purpose in testing.

No wonder they want to be alone when they do the autopsy. With a witness there, it would be harder to misinterpret or create "evidence."
_______

[Gracie]

CP Pat Brown,

It seems there is a lot of speculation on "why" Casey would do such a thing... Posters here have run the gamut in speculation that she was spoiled, jealous of Caylee's affection for Cindy (& vice versa), mental issues (postpartum depression, psycho/sociopath), sexual/incest abuse as a child, genetics/heredity, etc. I believe we've had every thought and possible "why" pondered.

Some even speculate that Cindy "created" Casey's personality and behavior - maybe because Cindy's personality demands unreasonable expectations, and that environment put so much pressure on Casey as a child she "snapped" into her own fantasy world (world of lies) to buffer the pressure.

What would be your best guess of "how" Casey came to be this way? Are there personality markers or signs for parents or child care givers to look for when concerned about a child? We can't be suspicious of every liar we meet, but we ARE our brothers (sisters) and their childrens' keepers. What steps should we take if we suspect something is amiss, specifically if a child is involved?

Thank you for your insight into this tragic story.

Gracie

[Barbara]

George Anthony confuses me. I have 3 relatives who have been with local PDs for many years. They seem to have the same personality- type A, very reliable, very organized, very take-charge- etc. I know George Anthony was with a PD for many years, but he doesn't have that same type of personality. I've thought all along that he seemed like an outsider looking in; not too involved, didn't seem to know too much about his family. Is it my imagination?

[Criminal Profiler Pat Brown]

Gracie,

You pose a question we all wish we could answer unequivocally so that we could prevent psychopathic personalities from developing. Unfortunately, we humans haven't quite been able to pin down the answer. However, I would say from what I have seen and studied, that psychopathic personality develop in rather the manner of a tornado - if the right ingredients come together, then this personality may form.

I have never seen a violent psychopath serial killers, mass murderers, etc.) come from a solidly healthy family. Always there is some major dysfunction present. Of course, we have psychologically sound people sometimes coming from these families which to me is more of a miracle than anything else. But when a psychopath shows up, there usually is something amiss in the family members.

Cindy and George Anthony (sometimes, Barbara, police officers act diffently at home than on the job where they have the uniform) remind me of couples in which the female is Munchausen's Syndrome (or Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy) and the husband separates himself into his own world of denial. The woman plays games for attention, outrageous things like making up stories of stuff done to her, dragging her child to the doctor repeatedly making up symptoms, sometimes killing her children. Meanwhile, the husband is oblivious. He claims he never suspected anything but this is likely because he didn't really want to deal with anything, so he didn't notice it.

Cindy exhibits much of the attention getting behaviors of Munchausens and George exhibits the unseeing husband. I am quite sure Casey's upbringing was probably not the healthiest with Cindy in charge. Eventually, Casey could fight back against her Mom and find a way to one-up her mother by getting rid of the little prize (Caylee). Of course, this works nicely with getting rid of a thorn in your side as well and getting your freedom back. Motives aren't always simple or singular and the perpetrator may not even have the motive that clearly in her mind either. But, she knows she likes life better when the kid isn't in it.

As to Casey and her pathological lying - that trait came with other traits like narcissim, entitlement, lack of responsibilty, lack of empathy, shallow emotions - all traits of psychopathy. When they come as a package, be on guard. We SHOULD be suspicious of every liar we meet because pathological lying is a hallmari of psychopathy. What decent person lies constantly?

If you are a family member of neighbor who is worried a child is in danger, one must report this to the authorities. Of course, one must have convincing information which makes it difficult A lot of liars do not kill their children; they may be lousy parents and role models but not necessarily murderers. Pay attention to ideation - what they are fantasing about. If they say things like, "If I could just be free of the little brat, " or "No one would miss that kid if he would disappear", you have a reason to be concerned.

It is sad what kids have to go through and how they may never get a chance to have a decent home, good mother and father, and a healthy upbringing. Poor Caylee didn't get a very long life and likely never realized her mother would turn on her the way she did. Caylee's life was far too short and I can only hope Casey life sentence is exceedingly long.

[P. Hutchins]

I am a mother & grandmother and can tell you with some certainty why George & Cindy behave this way. Firstly to do anything else means they would have to believe much sooner that Caylee was already dead. In earlier interviews Cindy had said she wasn't certain of her daughters involvement, that very day she recieved a call from Casey saying "Oh,you dont know my involvement?, just give me Tony's phone number I dont want to talk to you Mom",click went the phone. At that point she and George had to choose to back her up until someone could prove Casey guilty.They didn't believe her or George would have never said the car smelled of death(even though he pulled back by saying it was old pizza)Casey was the only one with answers so they were going to do whatever they had to even if it meant looking stupid.If you watch the jailhouse interviews between Casey & her parents you can tell Cindy is trying like hell to guilt Casey into saying something anything about the baby. For instance"Casey we have got to find her before her third birthday,which is coming up fast".These are just my observations.

[Marsha]

FYI info on the autopsy for JohnLloyd Scharf:
Caylee's autopsy will be done by Dr. G. (Garofolo) who is very familiar to those of us who watch Discovery Health. She has had her own show (Dr. G. Medical Examiner) for years, and she is a very well respected pathologist/coroner. She is the chief medical examiner for Orange County. She also always has numerous technicians assisting her during the autopsy, and she dictates everything as she works. This well-repsected doctor has absolutely no reason to endanger her career and her license to practice medicine by "creating evidence" during the autopsy as you imply she may.

[Beezy]

In regards to JohnLloydScharf. Why would Casey conduct a search on the web for chloroform? or on how to make it? All the evidence that we need is DNA! I am pretty sure that people that are conducting the autopsy are not able to tamper with the DNA. Casey Anthony is a liar and she knows what happened to that little girl and I hope they seek the death penalty and she burns in hell

[char]

If it was an accident you do not go out dancing...
If it was an accident your call your father the LE....
If it was an accident you do not spin lies to the moon and back.
It was not an accident. :(

[Stella]

This case makes me sick to my stomach.

George and Cindy Anthony are just as guilty as Casey - after the fact.

They have spun ridiculous tales in the media for the past six months in an effort to get their killer daughter off. Somewhere along the line they decided to go along with her sickness and her lies while their granddaughter lay out in a field, by a roadside, decomposing in the hot summer sun, tossed away like a piece of trash, while Casey relaxed in air conditioning.

George and Cindy, in their sickness actually expected the OCSD to play personal private detectives for them -- running around investigating every false sighting based on every fuzzy photograph emailed to Cindy. False leads in Texas, Puerto Rico, California. And with every one, Cindy goes and opens her mouth on national television again.

I heard a story that George and Cindy would likely be charged with obstruction of justice. I hope that this is true and that it comes to fruition. If for no other reason than to discourage any book written by them to actually see the light of day.

After Casey is safely put away in prison, George and Cindy should get the therapy they've needed for a long time.

[MC Wells]

re: Posted by: JohnLloydScharf | December 12, 2008 at 09:36 PM

John, could you post a link for the body gas info you used? I would like to do some reading on that. Also, I have researched some of the info on chemicals USED in testing being stated as being present as evidence of criminal activity. Would like a link to your reading on this if possible. Thank you.

Personally, I am suspect about the prosecution pushing so hard to exclude defense experts from the autopsy. In this day and age with the abuses by some LE revealed in other cases, I would think LE would welcome witnesses of the defense so this issue could not possibly be used AS A defense.

There is already some feeling of mismanagement by LE along with a number of LE members being fired for their association in this case. Why have they played games with turning over their discovery to the defense? i.e. turning over 900 pages of PSYCHIC tips ONLY when defense requested info on the tips called in to LE. Then they refused to give the legitimate tips until some $600+ was paid for the worthless tips!

In my opinion that is attempting to block a persons' right to a defense. At this time it appears that Casey may have done this to dear little Caylee, but our constitution is based on the right to be tried in a court by our peers and the presumption of "innocent until proven guilty".

As you referenced, look at the Ramsey case!

[kris]

The searches will prove she wanted to kill her child- it probably was something she thought of often when she was angry at her mom and helpless on where would she go- without a job ect... the night she killed her - her and her mom got in a fight- she had the stuff she needed at that time to do what she planned on doing- she may just get the death penalty- she is a killer- the facts are there. I belive there is another reason this was easy for her (may have to do with who the father is) ??? I have heard a lot of specutaltion it may be Lee? but not confirmed- its just wierd that she would steal money and never try to get money from the father of the child? i agree with padiilla - she taped her mouth incase she screamed - to be with her boyfriend alone- sad- painful but true- and you can tell now with all the videos she has No Love for Caylee- precious little baby with the sweet face and tiny hands-
I think she should get the death penalty- and i am not one for it- but maybe that may wake her up!

[Chess613]

Needless to say, Thursday’s discovery was a bombshell. I had always thought Caylee died accidentally and all that Casey had been doing since then (June 16) was simply covering up her neglect and partying in the name of denial. But when you couple the web searches in March, along with yesterday’s discovery (not just the body, but the tape and the fact that there was tape and garbage bags in Casey’s car), I think it gets easier to believe this was premeditated murder.

If anyone is wondering why they are doing a search of the Anthony’s home now instead of earlier, I think it has to do with probable cause: aside from the hair fiber in the car, they had no proof that Caylee was dead - hence, no proof that a crime was committed in the home. Now they have that proof, since they have the body. The very fact they are able to search the home (meaning they did a warrant, and got a judge to sign) means they showed probable cause that a crime was committed there. Meaning they proved to a judge that THE BODY IS CAYLEE! I can’t see a judge signing off on it unless they made that proof already. I would think a simple dental record check would do it, but I think they would need consent from the Anthony’s which I’m sure they would fight. But I think we can put away any doubt that this is young Caylee Anthony.

I still have some burning questions about the case, though with each day of new discoveries, those question are either answered or become moot:

1. What was actually said during the argument between Cindy and Casey? We know it was after the Father’s Day visit and I already know about the stolen money Casey took from the funeral home and that the Anthony’s had to come out of pocket to pay it back. But neighbors heard Casey (not Cindy) yelling, and it was Cindy who did the choking of Casey. What exactly did the neighbors hear Casey say? I think it’s a forgone conclusion that Casey was still burning up from what was said and done that Sunday.

2. Was there dismemberment done on the body? Cindy took a knife out of Casey’s car, and Casey borrowed a shovel from Burner either the next day or the day after. So was Casey’s plan to dismember Caylee and distribute the body?

3. Regarding the tape, can we conclude that Casey tried to fake like it was a kidnapping, as if intruders snatched her, tied her up and took her to the woods to die? Was she duct taped before or after she died? To me, it doesn’t make sense to duct tape a dead body (unless you are staging a crime) - but do we throw away the dismemberment idea if she duct taped a live Caylee?

4. When did she drop the body off? According to GPS traces from her cellphone, she was all over the place those two weeks in june - Blanchard Park, up and down University Blvd, always around Amscott area - my feeling is she had scattered thoughts of what she wanted to do - she had one idea (the kidnapping) then she decided against it; then she wanted to bury it in the backyard and maybe distribute the body in several scattered areas in the yard, but was scared out of it when Dad started asking questions; then started poking around Blanchard Park. I wouldnt’ be surprised if there were parts missing in the bag - the skull would be the one thing she’d want to rid herself of the most. Also, did the shower at the young man’s home in the morning (his last name is Waters - July 5) had anything to do with it?

5. The biggie: why? At first the ultimate question was: where is Caylee. That one’s answered. Even with the web searches, I still think there’s a possibility Caylee died by accident or by spontaneous action by Casey (i.e. slapping or shaking her in frustration). Sure, she may have had it on her mind back in March, but that may just be thoughts - the silly morbid fantasies of a young woman wanting to get away from her responsibilities. The chloroform is a different matter. I never believed in the chloro idea of knocking out Caylee just to party - not saying it isn’t possible, but where would she be making this chloro if she’s been doing this since March? In the garage? Is there evidence of it? I like the spontaneous death idea because it plays out - you have someone who believes, since March, that Caylee is holding her back. If I’m not mistaken, Morales broke off with her in February, and she was getting friction from Rusciano in march and april because she wasn’t readily available. I’m sure around this time, her parents were needling her about paying for Caylee’s food, clothes and compensating the parents when she went out to party. So they stopped taking care of her when Casey wanted to hang out - even if Casey slipped out and left Caylee with the parents, she’d catch hell when she got back. We still don’t know what prompted Cindy to go to a counselor in mid or late May where the counselor told Cindy to toughen up to Casey. I can only imagine how Mother’s Day must have been in the house. I think she had something on her mind, but kept it in her mind - until she got thrown out. That was the real catalyst. It made Casey immediately vulnerable - now she has to shack up with Lazzaro and be the doting girlfriend. She has to hope he likes kids and will put up with things when Caylee gets cranky. He doesn’t - he doesn’t want kids. And she has no job - so I have to imagine she spent all of her days just with Caylee, something that had to drive her crazy, especially now that she really has no place to live. And then the Father’s Day fight. I think this is when the whistle blew. Casey has EXCELLENT control of her emotions, and she erroneously believes she’s smarter than everyone else. So I’m sure she believe she could stage an accidental death and pretend to be the mourning mother. But she could also be the victim of a kidnapping. Or a carjacking. Which one? I think she entertained all of these ideas. I think the murder/accident happened at home - the phone calls beginning at 3:03pm suggest she may have wanted to act out the accidental death ploy, but chickened out - also, she couldn’t get anyone on the phone. Since we have tape over the mouth of the body, she probably entertained the kidnapping ploy. Then we have the car being left at Amscott with the purse - hoping someone would steal it, hence a carjacking. But neither really worked as planned. She didn’t follow up on the desperate phone call, the car never got stolen, so the last card she would play would be the kidnapping. But she waited too long - by the time she may have finalized the “nanny stole my baby” idea, it may have been over a week already. Why didn’t she report it immediately? Not knowing what to do, she did what she’s always done anytime she’s stolen something - hope to get away with it without anyone knowing and have fun fun fun while you’re free. Narcissists like Casey hate it when others live in happiness and peace and they don’t. The Anthony’s finally had peace with Casey out of the house. Her friends were about to party in Puerto Rico. Lazzaro was chilling in New York for a week, without taking her. I think Casey hated it. So she punishes her mother by denying her Caylee (not by killing her but by not letting her speak to her). She punishes Amy by stealing her money. Maybe she tried to put TonE under her thumb, but because he wasn’t so much into her, she couldn’t really do it.

Last thoughts.

Children are very good in seeing in the hearts of people, especially their parents. They sense everything. Casey is excellent in playing her emotions to the whims of the people around her - she’s a wonderful friend for those who need friends - a great daughter when it suits her needs and a great mother. She is what others want her to see. But a child knows. A child is a mirror of sorts to a parent, because a child reflects exactly what’s inside. I’m sure Casey knew it and hated it. In destroying Caylee, she destroyed the one person she couldn’t fake it to. Who knows what the final responses Caylee had to her mother. What we do know is something very pure was killed by something very impure.

[Gracie]

CP Pat Brown,

Thank you for your insight. I thought that as well (that dysfunction breeds dysfunction) but never really saw how much Cindy's personality (dysfunction?) created Casey. I thought it could in theory, but never saw so much detail, conversation, information, etc. from inside any one family till the Anthony's. (Case study for years to come??)

I suppose when Cindy couldn't explain Casey's aberrant behavior, she lied about it to paint everything rosy. I guess this was just another "normal life tool" Casey grew up learning. It does make sense that for this dysfunction to perpetuate itself, it needed the enabling function of the father figure. I think the Munchausen's statement is amazing. I always thought those only on the level of a small, mistreated child and sick mother - never in the context of the grown child.

We thought there was an "abuse" in Casey's background that caused her displaced familial love (child to mother, child to father & vice versa = security, self-respect) which caused her to jump from relationship to relationship. Could the Munchausen's (Cindy using Casey for her own attention grabbing) have been the same alienating force as a daughter w/o love/attention from father/father figure? (I am also supposing Georg only paid attention to Casey when Cindy wasn't around or needy.)

I've noticed in most video clips of Casey, specifically when she is spoken of as "the daughter" or there is a reference to "her father", or even when she looked at him in court, she "truly" cries. (With Baez at her side, we note how she has to milk her tear ducts to get any bit of moisture!) George is the only chink in Casey's armor and I think she knows he knows, and always did.

Thank you again for your time on this. I will certainly keep eyes and ears open and be sensitive to the "doings" around here.

Gracie

[liz g]

Chess613-WOW! That just about sums it up! You've nailed it. Let justice prevail!

[Sonya]

Thanks for giving us this perspective!

[Betty metcalf]

I think Cindy was trying to make her spoiled rotten daughter take some responsibiliy for once in her life.(by making her keep the baby)And it back-fired on her and poor little Caylee paid the price. Nobody wins everything is lost. Even if Casey gets death,it won`t fix any of this.Cindy will be on deathrole within herself.

[Betty metcalf]

I was a young single mom with two small girls(2yrs.&4yrs)at the same age as Casey(22yrs).I was very self-absorbed also.All I thought about was having fun,this always meant I had to get away from my girls.More than 80% of time I was(stuck with them) Don`t get me wrong,I have always loved them.But when you are in that state of mine,all you think about is satisfing yourself,at that moment.Yes,I lashed out at them alot,blaming them for my mysery.I never hit or choked or medicated them.And I never not wanted them.IAM 45 NOW AND WISH FOR JUST ONE OF THOSE DAYS BACK,SO I COULD DO SOMETHING FUN WITH MY LITTLE GIRLS.(THEY ARE BOTH GROWN NOW)CASEY NEVER WANTED POOR LITTLE CAYLEE.I WONDER IF SHE WISHES FOR A DIFFERANT OUTCOME?I WONDER IF CINDY WISHES FOR THE SAME?CINDY MADE HER KEEP THE BABY-CINDY SHOULD HAVE RAISED HER.INSTEAD I THINK SHE DID IT(MADE HER KEEP THE BABY) TO TEACH HER SPOILED ROTTEN KID SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HER LIFE.IT BACK FIRED ON HER AND LITTLE CAYLEE PAY THE PRICE.

[SheilaB]

I have t respond to Stella's comments.

First, you're saying the LE was "playing games" with turning over discovery, especially the tips. They did turn over the tips, can you not see that 99% of the tips they got were psychic tips? LE did follow up on live tips until they confirmed, through science that there was a dead body in the car. They gave the defense all of the reports taken through their tip line. And, why shouldn't the defense pay for this paperwork. Did you see how many pieces of paper were involved for each phone call? Can you imagine the cost to the State for this manpower and processing? Why didn't Jose pay his bill and go pick up the balance of the tips??? It is certainly not the job of the State to go through this mountain of paperwork and weed it out for Jose Baez. That's his job as a defense attorney.

Secondly, the defense has no LEGAL right to get involved in an active crime scene investigation. They will get all of the discovery once the state finishes their investigation. You are suggesting that LE has mismanaged this case, based on what????? You reference the JonBonet case, which was not in the State of Florida and was a completely different crime. How has LE mismanaged????? I've seen a very professional handling of this case. Notice they're not in front of the cameras daily like the Anthony's or Bozo Baez. Me thinks you are paranoid or have an authority phobia. Casey Anthony is most certainly going to get a top notch defense. Look at the panel of expertise Bozo is putting together. This won't help her though, the scientific evidence is going to be so overwhelming, they'll be stuttering in the courtroom. Stella, get a grip, you sound like an Anthony.

[kris]

Casey is seen in survailence video at blockbuster holding her boyfriend the next day she killed her daughter- because the day before she got in a fight with her mom- she had planned to kill caylee for along time never getting the nerve yet- but when she got angry at her mom i believe she took out her anger on caylee- she was never a mother to caylee from all the records i read- not a real mom. she is phsycotic.
its hard to believe someone could do this- but she did and she planned it- no way will her story fly in court/ she will see the death penalty or life. she is a danger to society.

[casey]

Casey does not deserve to walk free at anytime. I think it is disgusting that she is actually smiling for the camera in the picture on here. What would a mother who just lost their child have to smile about? There is no sign of actual remorse or loss from her. I feel sorry for her mother but i honestly believe her father helped her cover it up. Her father found the gas cans in her trunk..why didnt he report this to the police after he filed a police report stating he wanted to prosecute?

[New Here]

Kris, well written, well thought-out, and very insightful. Psychologist?

[TeriS]

SheilaB, I agree completely with everything you've said. I hope beyond all hope that justice is truly served for sweet little Caylee. The really scary thing is that there are more "Stella's" out there that for whatever reason actually want to believe Casey and I am afraid they might just get enough of those loons on the jury to prevent a guilty verdict. Wouldn't that be a tragedy?!

[kris]

Question To Pat Brown

I have read alot of police records from several people who say Casey Resented her mother- could she have killed her daughter out of hatred towards her mother? she got in a big fight with her mom the last time Caylee was seen- is it possible she killed her because she resented her mom Cindy?

[Mark Toothman]

After reading all of this material, I see that nearly all of you believe the same way I do about this case.
Casey Anthony is guilty as charged, but she has to be put through the process of law, before she is found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
As for her mother? I believe she has a certain involvement with all of this. I believe in my heart that Cindy Anthony knew her daughter murdered her little girl, but went along with it. Why? Who really will ever know exactly?
When this is all over, and the verdict is read, I pray to JESUS that Casey gets life, without parole, because putting her to death is too good for her. Put her in general population with all the other crazy women in the prison system, because eventually they will get to her, and make her hurt, like she did her little girl.
Life in prison for killing a child has to be hell in itself.
That is what I would call justice served.
God bless all of you that have such a warm heart about all of this.

[Andre]

The tot Caylee was becoming verbally mature and extraordinarily dangerous to Casey due to the fact Caylee was soon to be capable of "telling" others what her days were really like and what her mother was really up to every day. The facade for Casey was crumbling as Caylee was aging.

With the false life (no job, no paycheck, no college, no babysitter, Casey's take-a-number plethora of men, etc, her lies regarding George & Cindy including divorce, strokes, getting the house, endless thefts, etc) Casey was presenting to her own family and friends. . .

... it's obvious the child would begin revealing and speaking as to what she was seeing and hearing Casey do day-to-day.

If a child is ordered "not to tell" the child does tell via role playing with toys . . if ordered "not to tell" a specific person, children will tell another instead.

Casey would not have been oblivious to the dangers of her own child's verbalization and/or acting out the reality of their days.

Caylee . . to Casey . . was a ticking time bomb that would have destroyed Casey's parasitic lifestyle.

Psychopath's like Casey tend to be parasitic and are apt to destroy any obstacle that would force upon her what we consider to be normal accountability and responsibility for one's life.

As they say, we create our own monsters and we create our own realities.

George and Cindy are fully responsible for creating the reality of the monster under their own roof....borne out by their covering for her repeated exposed thefts, covering for Casey's choreographed life time of lying, demanding she raise a child she didn't want.

There must be something heinous Casey is holding over George and Cindy as we've all witnessed: they patronize and cover for her time and again even though the deeds required to do so are an anathema to their own ethics, morals and sense of humanity.

[Dean W.]

As if this case wasn't already bad enough, I'm further sickened by all of the comments that suggest LIFE IN PRISON would be a suitable punishment for Casey (assuming she's guilty).

Can anybody be surprised at the depravity of this society we have created, when so many people are too ideologically blinded to see that the ONLY suitable punishment for this crime is the death penalty? We get the society we deserve.

So you think the death penalty is "inhumane"? You are apparently not qualified to define inhumanity if you can see what has been done to this child and yet still argue that the perpetrator should live.

[Linda]

Where is our voice of reason?

Does anyone believe that Misty could fail 4 Polygraphs and that information would remain secret?

Is Misty smart enough to fool the FBI for 2 months?

Does anyone besides me wonder why the cadaver/tracking dogs led to a trash bin close by, yet nothing was found?

Even if Misty did leave the home, she isn't responsible for Haleigh's kidnapping...She IS guilty of stupidity.

Have we forgotten that there is 40+ registered sexual offenders within a 5 mile radius of Haleigh's home?

We can be the best of parents and things can still happen to our children. We live in a violent world and no matter where one lives, violence is close by.

We can all play the blame game once Haleigh is found, but for now let's support and pray for her and her families.

Califgal

[Carl McClellan]

well cassey looks like a kidnapper And a phycopath she can be also rated as a
#14 on Dr. Micheal Stones most evil scale ruthless self centered phychopathic schemer also a #16 phychopaths committing multiple vicios acts. to me she can be lying but the look on her face in court says she is a phychopath at all times