New Documents Allege Computer Searches for "Neck Breaking" and "Household Weapons"

November 26, 2008

The Orlando Sentinel is reporting that 700 additional discovery documents have been released in the case of Casey Anthony and her missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony.

The documents reportedly alleged that someone had used a computer, accessible to Casey Anthony, to conduct several disturbing searches on the Internet.

According to the documents, in March 2008, someone used Google to search for "neck breaking," "lost numbers," "how to make chloraform [sic]" and "household weapons."

Discovery Documents: Set 1, Set 2, Set 3, Set 4, Set 5, Set 6, Set 7, Set 8, Set 9, Set 10, Set 11, Set 12, Set 13, Set 14, Set 15.

Further searches were allegedly conducted that same month at Wikipedia, an online encyclopedia Website, for "inhalation," "chloroform," "acetone," "shovel" and "death."

Other sites that were allegedly used for online research include: sci-spot.com, druglibrary.org and instructables.com. The documents further allege that the search terms used at those sites consist of "making weapons out of household products," "chloroformhabit," "how to make chloroform," and "chloro2."

Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, has yet to comment on the newly released documents.

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[007]

I wonder what the 'lost numbers' search was about.. Do you know what that means?

[Ardra]

I think she was trying to figure out how she could plausibly say she "lost" zanny's phone numbers from her phone, and ways that a forensic analysis of her phone might reveal the number had never actually been programmed in there at all. But I'm making a big assumption on a single bit of evidence.

[Ardra]

Neck Breaking. Dear God in Heaven. This gets more and more disturbing by the minute. Just lately the child psychiatrists are starting to weigh in on Caylee's facial expressions in the photos of her, saying that they show signs of abuse. I am not entirely convinced, since hindsight is 20/20, but I've heard Caylee's expressions described as "angry", "sad", "tired", "haunted", "foreboding", and "fatalistic". That, to me, is the saddest thing yet, that this little child had possibly been enduring repeated druggings while Casey went out partying, and maybe, had learned to dread her own mother, and the strange bedtime rituals that knocked her unconcious. Puts tears in my eyes. Please let their be justice.

[Nancy Grace viewer]

since we're all speculating, let me imagine that
those "lost numbers" are probably just a search for some old boyfriend (maybe he was the one that didn't want to have to deal with a baby or something like that)

[caribaloo]

The "lost numbers" make me think of the TV show, Lost. The numbers are 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42. If that is the case, I would say that particular search is unrelated to Caylee. The other searches seem really suspect.

[Chris in MI]

There are a series of numbers on the TV show "Lost" that folks have been trying to figure out what they mean for years. These are referred to as the "lost numbers". Maybe Casey was a "Lost" fan?

[ElleC]

Lost Numbers I think has to do with the Episode (TV) of "Lost": http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/The_Numbers

What a sad state of affairs this girl has put herself and her family in. I'm sure it will all come to be known, the why's in the end.

[Marsha]

In rely to 007:
I think that the lost numbers search involves the fact that Casey would later claim to the police that she could not give them Zenaida's old phone number (supposedly disconnected) because she had either saved the number to her cell phone directly and lost the phone (one story she told) or saved it to a SIM card which she had in her pocket but lost (another story that she told that contradicts the first one). When you save a number to your cell phone, it asks you if you want to save it to the phone or your SIM card. Casey told several stories to her brother and the police about two cell phones (both given to her by her work at Universal even though she didn't work there anymore) and how she had lost one, filled in an incident report at Universal (never happened), and they gave her another phone. She then gave the two stories about the SIM card that was lost and the number saved directly to her phone as excuses for why she could not provide ANY phone numbers for Zenaida, whether working or not. Interestingly enough, Casey never lost any of her friend's numbers during all of this supposed cell phone loss and SIM card loss. Also, her phone records show that she paid her phone bills (not Universal) and she had only one cell phone, not two as she claimed. In fact, her dad told the FBI how she stole money to pay her very expensive cell phone bills.

[Drew Carrigan]

She is so guilty im just curious if she can be convicted with out caylees body. I remember something from civics class called habious corpus or something like that where you need the body in order to convict someone of murder.

[TONI]

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around NECK BREAKING. OMG i dont know why i am in shock I really dont but I am none the less. I also read that she had accused george of sexual abuse AND Lee had tried something sexual with her in junior high. oh boy

[Yogg]

This is becoming nauseating. Even considering breaking a neck...especially if indeed we are talking about a 3 foot tall, 30 lb child...well, that's just so frightening and disgusting I shudder to think about it.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you "America's Most Disfunctional Family".

[nika]

I'm trying to figure out why she would google "shovel".

Even though she used one in the crime- what could she need to know about a shovel that inspired on line research? That part confuses me.

[Lisa]

Can you say PRE-MEDI-TATED? We can't hardly take hearing anymore of the horrible ends Caylee might have suffered at the hands of her mother. I'm no softy either , Cindy should be charged with obstruction.

[Lisa]

This is just so terrible. To imagine the horrors that baby may have gone through. Even worse, grandma doesn't care about her enough to be honest in helping find her. What a shame. What a choice.

[Roberta]

Breakin' Necks is a custom truck club that is taking over the Orlando area. Think probably this is the neck-breaking Casey was searching. It's a My Space person and if you notice, Sean Daly (also, Casey's friend) is one of his friends.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendi d=21126556

[Indie]

Some of the 'searches' on the internet seem to have possible alternatives to the obvious, such as 'neck breaking' (a club in Orlando). What doesn't have a ready answer are the searches related to chloroform and chloroform habit (ie, how to break a possible addiction to a drug). I'd be interested to know the date of the 'habit' search, and after finding sites where she then travelled within them and what information was directly sourced. Regarding the 'shovel' searches, I wouldn't be surprised if she was looking for information as to whether shovels could sustain dna / forensic evidence, and if the surface of a shovel could, then how to go about cleansing the area (the date of this search would also be very interesting). These search terms are just glimpses -- I'm interested in what information was directly retrieved following the entry of these search terms and how this information may relate to the case.

[Debbie]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_U-IzmsmM0 There is a music video named SHOVEL. It must be difficult for Casey being judged on her every google search. Lost number...could this have been in trying to find her lost numbers rather than to scheme for a muder. Did she google "break a neck" in an effort to protect hersef from a possible threat (someone threatening to take her child) or could this have been another music video? So many people her age use some type of drug. Why would her search for homemade drugs mean that she planned to kill her child. One mother out of one hundred million mothers would even think of killing their own child. Let Casey explain why she pulled these searches on the Internet before we accuse. It seems that she did not begin stealing money until her child was missing. Is her child being held hostage until Casey returns money she owes? Keep looking for Caylee.

[CrimeJunkieMama]

This new information sheds even more light onto a troubled and disturbed family. You wonder if the escort sites were from George or Lee? But out of all of the family members, Cindy is emerging more and more as the monster of the family. Not only is she in severe denial about Casey eliminating Caylee, but she has always been in denial about situations that have arisen in her family: alleged abuse, incest, etc. The mind boggles when you imagine what other things have occured in this family before Caylee's murder.
Going back to that fateful argument with Casey and throwing her out, why for God's sake did Cindy not insist that Casey leave Caylee with her and George. I can understand her kicking Casey out but why Caylee too. That's why Cindy can't face the truth because she knows she inadvertently played a part in her granddaughter's death. Cindy sealed Caylee's fate when she cast out Casey. The other big mystery is who is Caylee's father. I don't buy the story that he's dead. I fear the real truths buried in this awful family's history are even worse than we think.

[ChasBlack]

In reply to Debbie... Sure, there can be an alternative to every one of those searches but do you really think (in light of what has happened) that she was searching neck breaking for self defense tips. Come on!

Watch the FBI interview with George Anthony. He said that Casey had a history of taking money. (In the interview, he began to say stealing and stopped himself). She had taken money from her mother's purse, from a college fund for Caylee, from her Grandparents, from her child's piggy bank, and from Amy. Not all of this happened after Caylee went missing. And, after Caylee went missing, that's when she took Amy's checkbook. Store and bank video show her writing checks at Target and cashing a check she wrote out to herself. Bank statements shows where that money went. She wasn't using it to pay ransom for a child that was being held hostage.

I understand that many people are hopeful that Caylee is still alive and I would love to believe that myself but I don't. I do support people searching for her, dead or alive. This child needs to be brought home one way or another.

If you're waiting for Casey to spill the beans, keep waiting. Casey is not going to speak, she isn't going to explain anything! She did speak to anyone until he child was missing for over a month! I can't even imagine. How does that work in a normal / innocent mother's head... Well, my daughter has been kidnapped by her Nanny and is missing. What should I do? I know... I'll go shopping and then enter a hot body contest tonight. That's not what a normal / innocent person would do... A parent with nothing to hide would be screaming from every rooftop after their child was missing for 5 minutes. A normal parent would call the cops and not wait over a month. An innocent parent would be begging people for help to find their missing child and not leading police on a wild goose chase.

Debbie, I can see you're optamistic but in my oppinion, what you're putting forth just doesn't fit.

[Brooksie]

I believe she planned on killing her parents. She made up so many lies that they were divorcing, and she was moving into that house. I bet she was going to kill them, then act as if they are missing or something to the affect but it ended up being Caylee that was gone because she no longer needed her parents home as she was going to now be living with her new boy toy.

She had a plan, a huge plan, but I do not believe it was always Caylee being dead, I believe it was either her going missing, so she could party, or her parents going missing so she could have that house as she told everyone she was getting.

Then she was caught up again in her lies and betrayel and her mother freaked on her and her boyfriend said she could not stay there with Caylee and she had to get rid of someone, and Caylee was the one sitting next to her at the time.

[kathleen G.]

regarding comment by "Debbie"

Check it out Deb ! Watch some George and Cindy's interviews FBI...she has been lying and steeling way before the child was even born. oh and this is my favorite: the following text message to her now ex-boyfriend Tony- "I lied to everyone. What was I supposed to say? I trust my daughter to some psycho? How does that look?" Now Debbie, does this sound like she was more worried about her REPUTATION WITH HER FRIENDS TO YOU ?????????? thought so. comment from Canada. P.S...she had said how nice and great this "nany" was remember ?? she knew her for 4 years ? lol

[dysfunctional]

Why would Casey's daddy want to make Casey appear mentally unstable to the public during a time that Casey needed his support most? Stealing, Internet Searches, arguments with her mother and all the other that those from a dysfunctional family do when searching for their worth in life does not make Casey a Mother who murdered her child. Had she stopped to save a cat that had been hit in the street, they would be saying there was blood found in her car that makes her a murderer. If one is looking for negative they will find negative. If one is looking for positive, they will find positive. Who is looking for positive in Casey and her stated fear that she had for going to the police. Didn't she date a police officer in Florida? Did she attempt winning a contest for money to live on...she was unemployed, wasn't she? Did she write checks buying items so that she could return the items for cash needed to live on? Seems like people are trying to make Casey's dysfunctional family life fit into their negative perception of Casey being responsible for the murder of her daughter. Wasn't her car missing for days before the smell was found in her car? If Casey did not want her daughter she could have put her up for adoption, and if money is what Casey was after, she would have sold her. Seems like a witch hunt going on and another example of how society works against mothers rather than with mothers during their time of troubled needs for their children.

[debbie]

Reply to Kathleen G...You are taking bits and pieces of information of a mother's troubled life and turning those pieces into a woman who murdered her child. Why would Casey have cared that she trusted the wrong person with her child if she wanted to kill her child? How can you turn worries of a mother trusting the wrong person with her child into being concerned about her own reputation? Are you a person that would worry about your reputation and is this how you managed to turn that statement into a reputation concern for Casey? Casey did lie, but why? What is and who is she scared of is the question here. You do not know the text that statement surrounded. Stand by the mother if you want to help the child. Casey cannot trust or she would not have found a need to lie. Why can Casey not trust? Has she found negative responses throughout her life in the past when she needed to be able to trust? Is the lack of trust someone or something current in her life? Society must help the mother in order to help the child.

[Indie]

Regardless of how you interpret them (sunny-side up, or death and destruction down), a few key issues are without question in this case:
- Casey has been called by friends and family members a pathological liar. Note that Cindy called her a sociopath before finally locating Casey and discovering her grand daughter missing. Casey lied about working at Universal, lied to Amy about moving into her parents house, lied to Jesse about his being Caylee's father, about having a nanny called Zanieda (who NO-ONE has met, has no contact details for, etc).
- When the police are brought into the case, she lies to them about about where the nanny supposed lived and who's place she had been inside of (a nursing home), about co-workers at Universal (who don't actually work there - not that she has for 2 years - unless they worked there several years ago). These co-workers, only one of whom can be identified, are apparently the only people that she told about the nanny taking Caylee, and yet she has no contact details for either of them (given the circumstances, wouldn't you be in constant contact with these co-workers who apparently knew of the situation given that you would need support if indeed you were scared of going to the Police? If Juliet Lewis does exist, why hasn't she stepped forward - the case has been highly publicized throughout the US and the world (I'm writing this from Australia, and I know all about it). In fact, Casey told the Police very little useful information regarding Caylee's 'disappearance' at all. She may have been scared, but the game was 'up' as soon as the Police became involved.
- Despite a comment above about Casey stealing money to use to search for Caylee, there is no evidence that she did this (unless attending nightclubs hoping to run into the nanny is indeed a feasible 'search' effort). If the nanny had Caylee, how could she / why would she be out at night until all hours of the morning partying? If you had of just stolen a child, would you hang out at your alleged 'regular' haunts so that you could be easily tracked down? Casey was found in possession of all items she purchased from Target with Amy's money - in fact, she was wearing some of these clothes (see the released files) when arrested. If Casey did return items for cash, she only returned a limited number. In addition, Casey also purchased consumables (beer, food) to prepare dinner for Tony on many nights (see Tony's interview) - if your child was missing, and you had taken on the search for her by yourself, wouldn't you save every cent possible to fund that search?
- regarding the 'nanny' - do you really think that the Police have not covered their collective behinds on this issue? They would have searched throughout the US and beyond identifying and interviewing anyone who had a name remotely resembling that of Zanieda (Zanny) Fernandez-Gonzales.
- given that Casey was not working, how was she paying for this nanny? Why have the Police been unable to find any record of existence of the other child, Zac, who apparently the nanny also looked after on a regular basis? The person who is apparently the father of this child doesn't have a child, and has only had very limited and brief interactions with Casey in recent years. If this other child, Zac, does indeed exist, why is it that the parent/s of this child have not stepped forward and verified Casey's story?
- how is it that no-one has ever seen Caylee or Casey in the company of this nanny. Surely, given that the nanny was looking after Caylee for two years, at least one person could step forward and offer this witness account? A storekeeper, a casual friend, friend of the family... anyone? As Casey was such a avid photographer, why can't she produce one photo of Caylee with her nanny - a nanny that had been an integral part of this child's life for supposedly 2 years?
- how is it that Zanny lived and worked in the region, and yet NO-ONE has come forward to say 'I know of this person'? Did Zanny have no friends, did not leave the house, etc? If she did exist, then SOME-ONE would know her, even if it is from a distance.
- those people who were in Casey's company during those nightclub 'searches' reported no evidence of her trying to seek anyone out or hear her ask anyone if they had seen 'Zanny'. Further to this, how was attending a 'no-clothes' party (with friends) of any benefit in the search for Caylee?
- On what evidence do we have (as cited above) that the smell in Casey's car developed only after it was abandoned? According to Casey, the car was not stolen - she knew exactly where it was prior to being towed. If no one stole the car, and no one entered the car until George did when the smell in the car was blatantly obvious, there is no room to suggest that the source of this smell was placed into the car between the abandonment of the car by Casey and the collection by George (unless you would like to suggest that the towing agency decided to place something in the car (with a match to Caylee's DNA) in the trunk of the car for a period of time, then removed it prior to George collecting the car?

These things are basic facts, and I haven't referred to any of the internet searches, etc, as I believe it is entirely possible that many of these searches could simply be coincidence (eg, the name of a song, the numbers from the TV show Lost and their significance, etc). We can't know the significance of these searches unless we know what the content of the actual information retrieved was. This information may be innocent, or it could be damning. Despite this, however, there are simple basic facts that cannot be ignored.

I don't know Casey, and I don't know what she has experienced in her life. It would seem that the pattern of pathological lying began at least two years ago as she continued to deceive her family that she remained working at Universal. She appears to have lied consistently and regularly to her family and friends in the YEARS leading up to Caylee's disappearance - these lies didn't just start upon Caylee's alleged 'abduction'. It is one thing to suggest that Casey lied out of fear following the abduction of Caylee, but the evidence (collected from a range of sources - family, friends, etc) suggests that Casey has been consistently lying for years. So, the continuation of lies - rather than truth - is the most likely scenario (but despite having doubts about Casey's story, the police have searched for the nanny, etc, in case Casey was telling the truth - they didn't just immediately dismiss Casey's story as lies).

I have no doubt that part of Casey loved Caylee very much, I'm just not sure that this love was enough, for whatever reason. I don't think there would be a single person who has commented here critically of Casey's behaviour not offer a personal apology to Casey if Caylee was to turn up alive and well. In fact, I think it is something everyone secretly wishes for so that the family can have their grand daughter back (there is no question that this child was loved by the grandparents). But the story about the nanny taking Caylee is the story that Casey seems to be sticking to, despite the failure of not a single piece of circumstantial or physical evidence supporting this scenario (and surely there'd be something - even a small something at least - if this scenario was indeed true?)

We don't know Casey's mental state. There could be something psychologically wrong with Casey that may have led to this current situation. The truth is, we won't know what happened to little Caylee unless her mother tells us, or the absolute horror arises and her body being found.

[Casey knows the truth]

I have been pregnant on bed rest and have studied this case using my lap top and watching Nancy Grace. I've heard the interview's and it's amazing to me how this whole family is saying at first yes Casey is a liar. Casey is a thief. They will then later defend her and say BUT she wouldn't do something like kill her daughter. A person with a personality like Casey's with her detailed lying, stealing with no remorse over and over show's great deception and "is" capable of murder to her own innocent child. It is to hard to comprehend the cold hearted person who could do this. A person like Casey Anthony doesn't feel guilt or sorrow or pain like we do she feel's sorry for herself when she get's caught. She was angry at her mother and wanted to have her freedom. She is a sociopath. I have a question. Lee Anthony I know can sense something in her even if he doesn't want to. Maybe he didn't in the beginning but I believe that he has vanished a little because he at some point put everything together and realized what his sister was capable of. I don't believe he will tell. I think he was probably shocked and sickened but he has chosen to stay quiet.
The very first 911 tape from Cindy Anthony "it smells like a damn dead body". Human Decomposition. Someone's body was in the trunk and the only person who is missing is Caylee Anthony. I pray Casey will tell the truth and let the family find some closure and give Caylee a proper funeral and to grieve. This maybe wishful thinking because it would take someone with dignity and caring to give other's peace. I don't beleive she's capable. Casey Anthony knows and she knows everything.

[examination]

Casey seems to be reaching out for help in writing her poem listed below. Many people discuss their fears, joys, and life through poems.
In reading the poem, this is the information I gained. On her worst day, she trusted the wrong person. Only trust yourself because one cannot trust those that befriend you in troubled times. Those with great power will make you pay for their help/favor/money loaned on a later date. They will help you, then they will take that kindness away in exchange for trouble. Everyone will lie so don't try to talk. Everyone who talks will die.

July 7 Monday (exactly 2 weeks since June 16, Caylee’s last day…) Casey Anthony posted this poem the Diary of Days. It reads, in part:
“On the worst of worst days,
remember the words spoken
Trust no one,
Only yourself.
With great power,
comes great consequence.
What is given,
Can be taken away.
Everyone Lies.
Everyone Dies.”

[Nicky]

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/make-cindy-anthony-accountable-for-her-actions#signatures

[Danna]

Disfunctional - Casey made reference to her car smelling, prior to abandoning it.

Examination - wow, what a stretch.

[Deb]

Why would Casey not want these two to talk? Casey does not want Jesse to know the fears that Casey confided in her parents. Why would Casey be scared of the very man who helped her raise Caylee?

July 3 Casey texts Jesse Grund to tell him not to talk to her parents if they should call him. Interesting in that in one of the jail house phone calls between Casey and Lee (7/26 or 7/30), she is telling Lee not to trust Jesse. I think the Anthony's and Grund need to sit down and compare notes. There is a reason she doesn't want them to talk.

[emg]

"dysfunctional" sounds an aweful lot like Cindy Anthony...hummmm...

[examination]

Danna...what meaning to you get from her poem? Psycho or something? You people are so negative. There is a real problem in what Casey is experiencing. She is in trouble and there is no-one to help her because she is not able to trust anyone. Looks pretty clear that she has trusted the wrong person on a day of hardship she was having. She stated in a text message that she could not believe she trusted a psycho with her child. What other way would she be able to express what has happened and to reach out for help if there were a threat on her child should she talk. What would you do sit at home, cry, go crazy and wait on your child to be returned by kidnappers or would you also go looking for the people you believe has your child. Would you go to the police if your boyfriends were police officers and might be involved. Life is not as clear cut as some of you think is should be. There are real problems out there. Finding Caylee could help many other children from going through this same thing. There seems to be another child missing every six months. So negative all of you giving up on Caylee and Casey. I pray all of you will eat your words very soon.

[Roberta]

Call it negative however, the facts are the facts. Casey is a sociopath, a liar and a crook..and yes, most likely a murderer. She comes from a very dysfunctional family. Any sane parent would have called the police the second she/he knew her/his child was missing, this did not happen with Casey. This is not about Casey but about finding Caylee. A mother would go to the ends of the earth to find her child including telling all she knows. The only one who could help find Caylee is Casey and she is not talking. There is no Zanny, but there is evidence of decomposition, cadaver dogs hitting in the yard and the trunk, hair in the trunk, choloroform, the smell of a dead body, what elese is one to conclude? Negative? I think what is being expressed is reality. Finding Caylee alive is what everyone wishes but the odds of this happening are almost nill to none.

[Indie]

I find it quite difficult to stomach posts which suggest 'help the mother to help the child' and 'why could Casey not trust?'.

'Help the mother to help the child' - Normally, I would agree wholeheartedly - helping mothers who need help can only improve the life of their children. However, in this situation the child is missing, presumed dead, and her mother has shown no remorse or genuine fear for that child (that we know of). Indeed, she hasn't provided a shred of truth to the police; she has requested the FBI promising to tell them everything and hasn't. She hasn't confided in a single person as to where Caylee is. Parents are adults, children are helpless and dependent on adults. If Casey wanted help prior to Caylee's disappearance, all she had to do was ask - maybe not her immediate family, maybe not some of her friends. But there appear to be lifelong genuine friends who deeply cared about Casey and Caylee - what is the excuse for not asking these friends for help? There are so many organisations available to assist people in crisis and who do not judge those they seek to help. Casey had a car, a cell phone, and plenty of time to avail herself of these resources.

Why can Casey not trust? - In this instance, I believe that it is not an issue of not being able to trust, but refusing to trust. She has repeatedly spat on and deceived her family and some of her friends through her own lies and deception. Notice that she showed no hesitation of accusing her brother of 'molestation' to her very new boyfriend. Anyone who has experienced genuine abuse of any kind, or suffered a sexual assault (as I have), finds it terribly difficult to share this truth with anyone unless they trust that person absolutely. The fact that Casey was able to tell of her brother's 'molestation' to a new acquaintance suggests to me that she did have people she could trust if she chose to reveal herself to them. Casey herself is untrustworthy - look at what she put her friend Amy through - and Amy showed Casey nothing but friendship and acceptance.

I don't believe the allegations of molestation/incest. I believe that Casey simply wanted to play another card to illicit sympathy and attention, and this allegation provides for another rationale as to why Casey did not want to go home (she was staying at peoples houses and taking advantage of their hospitality and trust, and in confiding in people about this 'abuse' she developed a scenario where others would feel obliged to let her stay). I believe that Casey will use whatever excuse she can possibly develop to try and excuse her behaviour - it's what she has done in the past, and I imagine that it is what she will do in the future. The reason I do not believe this allegation that Casey has made is because she has yet to offer anyone any truth about her life or about where Caylee is.

(Suggestions that Casey cannot trust the police is ridiculous - Jesse is no longer actively serving, she has slept with at least two other police members, and the detectives have no association with these people - in fact, one policeman was fired for not telling detectives that he had engaged in a sexual relationship with Casey - these people who she may therefore 'fear' are no longer actively associated with the police. In addition, why cannot she tell the truth to the FBI, who have no agenda, no reason to doubt her, and made themselves available to assist find Caylee?)

I believe that it is indeed possible that the Anthony family is somewhat dysfunctional (what family isn't??), however this is not an excuse to lie, cheat and steal. Further, it is not an excuse to allow a child to 'disappear'. Casey had options - if she didn't want to take fulltime care of Caylee, other people had already put their hand up to do so. As her father stated in an interview, he and Cindy looked after Caylee 90% of the time anyway. Casey did have freedom, she did have a life (the photos are evidence of this), but most importantly, she did have options to do anything other than place her child directly at risk. Excuses, at this stage, do not cut it.

Also, if Casey was in fear that she could not trust people and confide in them about Caylee's 'abduction', it does not explain her behaviour following Caylee's disappearance (the drinking, partying, lack of obvious concern or worry, etc).

I think that the truth is more likely based on Casey suffering from some form of psychological issue. This is demonstrated by her constant need for attention, desire for 'status' (working at Universal), and inability to maintain genuine, truthful relationships. If this is the case, she deserves to receive some help. But it still doesn't excuse the fact that Caylee is missing, perhaps forever.

[Suzan]

It is thought that Casey was looking up the screen name 'neck breaker'.
And her internet search for that screen name may be nothing more than that.

Finding Caylee's remains will clarify cause..

God be with the searchers.

[Suzan]

This is just one investigators..random thoughts. But, perhaps the plan for ridding one self of problematic people in Casey's life, was in the planning for the demise of her parents and/or child. She did spin tales of her parents breaking up..and also being gone, and George having had a stroke, she also claimed that she would be owning the house. Sometimes, those small comments that surface are indicators of a larger 'frame of mind' in the planning.

[Sheller]

If Casey had not really worked since 2004, had people babysitting for her almost daily "while she was working", where was she? I know hanging out with friends sometimes, but even good friends, if you show up at their house every day to hang out...that would get a little old. How do you spend the rest of the time you're pretending to be at work? That's a lot of time to have to use up doing nothing. How do you never have a pay check? File taxes? Your W-2's never arrive in the mail? I know it seems she was good at lying and keeping her made up work/life all in order to her parents. But to go to the extreme lengths, having her parents and high school girl friends watch Caylee, pretend to go to work? Drop Caylee off with Cindy, at her job, because she had to go to work? That would have been like 4:30 or 5:00 in the afternoon. Where would Casey have been going? Keeping up the illusion that she was working for two years? Staying gone 8 - 10 hrs a day...doing what? I just wondered if she was involved in something else, an occupation that wasn't as glamorous sounding as event planner? Someone sure should know where she was for all those days, those hours. That's a lot of time to be pretending to be at work. Where was she?

[Hope]

Right you are, Casey was somewhere all those hours she said she was working. Probably somewhere illegal that she cannot talk about. I can think of two well known illegal jobs... Prostitution and selling Drugs. She messed up somewhere in her work. She owes someone money or other. They took her child as assurance that they would be paid back and told her that her child would die if she went to the police. Casey stated she was scared for Caylee if she went to the police. Those she was dealing with were not small time...they put a person gone wrong in the trunk of her car for their follow up threat that she will pay. Casey did not know what the smell was in her car. She stated to a friend that something in her car smells really bad. Casey did not appear to know what the smell was in the beginning. She apparently found out and then tried to get rid of what was there without going to the police. Casey is clearly scared to talk. People find what they are looking for in this case. Everyone wants to judge Casey on her lifestyle, and her previous problems in her family life. Lifestyle and family issues does not make a Mother a person who would murder her child. Casey's character equals a large percentage of the youthful population in today's time and they have not killed their child. Casey was involved in something she cannot talk about for the safety of her child. Casey probably knows where Caylee is and how she is doing. I bet word travels even in jail letting Casey know how her child is doing. Casey shares a cell with many other women who have visitors. Have any of you ever been to jail. Some prison guards (in another state)have been fired for taking drugs and alcohol into the women's prison where they were all found high and having sex by another employee some hours later. None of you know what really goes on out there. Don't judge Casey as not being concerned about her child. I think she probably knows exactly where her child is and that her child is doing well as long as she does not talk. Casey may be a much stronger person than you may think. She has reached out to say she cannot trust anyone. She has also stated that she had fears for Caylee if she went to the police. Would you go to prison for the safety of your child?????? What if you had to be the most hated person on earth along with going to prison for life in order to keep your child safe. I think this is what Casey is doing. Just another outlook for all of you that believe life is a rose garden and that criminals do not work real jobs on the inside. If the person who took Caylee is reading this, you can turn Caylee in to any trusted small Church as they would probably not have a camera to identify you with. Contact the Church for a time that the preacher will be there and take Caylee there and tell the preacher who Caylee is before you leave. I am sure you are not interested in going to prison in exchange for doing the right thing. God be with you!

[examination]

I think everyone believes Casey is guilty because this is the type of parent they were...wishing they could get rid of their child and go back to their carefree life. People judge others according to the way they feel about themselves. They cannot provide DNA evidence of Caylee from Casey's car or they would have by now.

[examination]

In response to "She did spin tales of her parents breaking up..and also being gone, and George having had a stroke, she also claimed that she would be owning the house."....parents do talk for years of leaving their home to one of their children. If her parents were having trouble as stated, it would be normal for a parent to say they are getting a divorce. Even normal for a parent to say I am putting this house in your name to keep the other from getting their half or whatever, but who would want to tell the world their personal plans while their Children are on the front page across America. Maybe the one that told Casey they will be divorcing does not want to face the truth to the world for the world's input on their personal life and review of. Saying I have had a stroke is a common statement from a parent during the heat of problems within the home. Putting a person's entire life up for examination by the world is cruel and unusual punishment and Casey is protected from this in her Constitutional Rights...oh yeah, IF we still enforce our Constitutional Rights that have governed our Country in every court across America until recently. Hope the jury will only views FACTS involved in a murder case and not the personal issues of Casey and her family. FACT is law. FACT finding beyond reasonable doubt. There is always another side without actual fact in a case.

[Mother of 6]

This is not a mother, more like the devail's child in wasted human flesh. She had that baby, and grandma took care of her. She never had that mother daughter bound. I think that littel angel was in her way. I also belive she hated the way her child took her play, and how she became her parent child more and more. She pland this. A blind person can see this. I hope she is found , how can you let your child lay somewhere and not put her to rest. She never asked to be born. Dont she fell she owes her that. come on. Fore that i fell she should be thrown to the wolfs, lets see her fight for her life like i know in side she did. she has no remores so we should not offer he any. An eye for an eye!!! 1 more thing i know its hard to deal with the reality of you childs murder of her own but come on know pull you heads out of you butt and show no love. Maybe then she will start to care a littel. I wish i could hand her the punishment she well deserves!!!

[Suzan]

Quote"IF we still enforce our Constitutional Rights that have governed our Country in every court across America until recently. Hope the jury will only views FACTS involved in a murder case and not the personal issues of Casey and her family. FACT is law. FACT finding beyond reasonable doubt. There is always another side without actual fact in a case". End Quote

This case has a ton of circumstantial evidence. When looking at the entire picture of actions on Casey's part, it is wise to think out side of the box, and not get so focused on one's own frame of mind, but also consider other possibilities/motives. Many children in history have plotted to take the lives of their parents. It is not outside of reasonable thinking, to consider if Casey was also... planning.

Remembering that the jury consists of 'human beings' who are asked to dip from their own wells of understanding. Not all cases glean irrefutable fact(s),
That is why the prosecutor and also defense attorney, speculate in opening and in closing to 'just what those facts' point to. Motive.

The things Casey looked up on the pc, the things she told her friends, her movements.. they all play a part in the disappearance of Caylee.

[exmination]

Circumstanial evidence is not FACT. There must be fact finding. Fact would be witnessess who saw her murder her child, and even then those witnessess must have a reliable Character before a court of law can consider their testimony. DNA would be another fact. Even DNA in the trunk of Stacey's car would not convience me as Caylee's clothes have probably been thrown in that trunk many time while in route to a stayover in other homes. Hairs are on my clothes all the time. I find them in the floor of my car too. They are on the seat of my car. Still not enough FACT to stand alone. Caylee has not been found. The United States is a large Country to find a missing child that was kidnapped. Yes, Casey probably knows who Caylee is with but will not talk for reasons states earlier....She is scared for Caylee's safty if she goes to the police. Casey needs the right person to trust. Someone that can work undercover without revealing they are working the case to anyone else. When Casey can trust that she has this kind of person who can go in and bring Caylee out before the rest of the world knows he/she is on the way, Casey might be able to trust that Caylee will not be harmed in the process by the threatening kidnappers. Charlotte, NC is the last place Caylee was seen, yet nobody is looking for her there. She is probably with a good family that knows nothing about this kidnapping. If one does not subscripe to certain English magazines, nobody outside of the local Florida area even knows who Caylee is. Sad that many jurors will not know the difference between a WITCH HUNT and grabbing for straws used for charging Casey with murder. FACTUAL FINDING beyond a shadow of a doubt has not been found in any on line evidence listed for Casey's murder trail. Motive must have fact to support it. We could all go to jail every time something happned to our loved one if Motive was the only FACT needed in a murder trail. How many times I have been upset with my husband....would that be motive if something happned to him. How many of you have punished your child for a wrong doing or had an argument with your husband. They could turn all that into motive too. Be careful how you judge others because you could be judged the same way if better learning is not found in processing law and order in this Country.

[SumrLilli]

"Casey's character equals a large percentage of the youthful population in today's time and they have not killed their child."

I'm sorry, but if we resign ourselves to believing that this is the norm for kids in our society today, we are giving up. The lack or morality and the criminal mind that Casey possesses is way beyond any teenagers that I know. To me the statement quoted above shows complete apathy and a resignation that evil is normal and "ok".

Let's call a spade a spade. I am sure that Casey did not invite a witness to view whatever harm she inflicted on her child. If we are waiting for a witness to appear, rather than put 2+2+2+2+2........ together, then we will never put an end to this appalling story of sheer selfishness.

"I think everyone believes Casey is guilty because this is the type of parent they were...wishing they could get rid of their child and go back to their carefree life. People judge others according to the way they feel about themselves. They cannot provide DNA evidence of Caylee from Casey's car or they would have by now. "

I am a single mother of a 10 year-old boy. I have NEVER left him with someone I didn't know for a matter of years. And I have sacrificed much of my own social life for my sons safety. And even more than that - I have given up quite a bit of socialization because I realize that this moment in time comes but once and I want to savor it. I love being a mother and I love the results of that enjoyment reflected in my son.

Thus, I am QUITE the opposite of Casey Anthony.

That is why it is so apparent to me that every move she has made since Caylee "disappeared" is suspect.

And I believe that the DNA evidence is probably why she has been charged with murder. We are not privy to all of the information that Law Enforcement has to back up their case, but we have been notified thru the media that they DO have DNA evidence to take to court.

Reserve judgment if you'd like, but also refrain from judging those of us who have followed this sad story from day one and now realize that a happy ending won't come from anything stemming from the likes of Casey Anthony.

[Suzan]

Posted by: exmination: Circumstanial evidence is not FACT. There must be fact finding.

In reply...I never said that circumstantial evidence is fact. I said there is 'plenty of circumstantial evidence' in this case. There does not have to be irrefutable fact finding to find a person guilty. Many cases were won..merely on circumstantial evidence.

I didn't intend on getting in a debate..but I will comment on a few of the things you posted. Yes, I would agree...some trunks have hairs of past occupants..but I assure you..the hairs in your trunk 'do not have a death ring on them', unless your driving Casey's car.

There are 'NO facts' that Caylee was 'kidnapped' If we are missing something ..please enlighten us to what those 'facts' are.

If you were to.. take the circumstantial evidence of a kidnapper..and value it against the circumstantial evidence of a death having occurred. See which is more possible.

Put it next to the 'fact' that Caylee is missing, and her caregiver cannot tell the truth... well..you get my point.

I would love to be 'that person' undercover in with Casey in jail. I believe your right, that she needs to form a bond with someone she can trust, it would appear no such person existed in her life with her family or friends....isn't that sad???

[kodalee]

My comment is that if the police thought she( caylee) was missing they would have went full force in trying to find her. Wasn't it the end of July when that little boy was taken from his home by Drug Dealers posing as cops. He was given back unharmed. WHY? Because the police/FBI knew the parents were telling the truth and HELPED. Casey,Cindy, George and the middle finger Lee, Do NOTHING but LIE and interfere with anyone who has tried to HELP. As far as Im concerened I hope that Casey Rotts in jail;and KARMA finds it's way to the other three.

[Suzan]

When I set out for Florida, that is the area I went to 'specifically' check, I never got to..we were sent to other area's by tes and le.

Gosh .. I am glad it's over...

[Frame]

I'm in shock to see the number of people on this board that are actually defending this woman despite the lies, omissions, and basic lack of compassion she's shown for her daughter.

Those of you who are defending her seem to think that real life (especially in Orlando, FL) is like something out of a Harrison Ford movie. You're imagining scenes from "Ransom." Are we really to believe that someone out there HAS this child and is holding off on the reward money because, what? They're going to get more money from Casey Anthony??! The no-job-having, 10-year-old-Pontiac-driving, single mom from Central Florida who will probably spend the rest of her miserable existance in jail?

I'd love to be the perpetual optimist but life has taught me more than that. Behind every great disappearance usually lies one dead body and one other disturbed family member and I believe the truth is what you make of it. Where is the proof that she was searching for her daughter? Certainly not on her computer. If she was actively searching, why aren't there searches for the nanny's wherabouts on her desktop? Oh. I remember. She was too busy searching for drugs, shovels, and rock bands. Don't speak to me about not having to prove herself innocent because this isn't about law --- it's SUPPOSED to be about love.

[Alyce]

Well I would expect people to sigh for the poor girl but when a person kills their child, that's when you have to not pull a Cindy or a George Anthony denial trip.
You have to understand as a parent who has raised your children with honesty and believe crime does not pay.
George should've known that being a police officer at one time or another.
Now dear Cindy she should've not had children because shaking baby syndrome caused Her daughter ( Casey )to be a basketcase. God Bless Caylee may you rest in peace.
Sorry but this family is screwed up from the floor up.

[carolyn]

well I just wanted to say that I do not like the way this is ending in this case because I do not know how to explain this but i still feal that casey should be made to explain what happened to her daughter no matter what happens to her after her trial and I don't know how much good it is going to do saying this but I wish that they could let certain outsiders talk to her and try to get some information from her because i for one would love to help and bring some peace to caylee because she did not deserve this and because I think that helping to close this is a way to show her that we people love her even though we only know what we are told about her as her grandparents know her.

[Anonymous]

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