Criminal Profiler Says Casey Anthony is "Punishing Everyone"

September 11, 2008

Last month, Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin, President of the Violent Crimes Institute, LLC, shared her thoughts on Casey Anthony, mother of missing three-year-old Caylee Anthony.

Dr. Schurman-Kauflin recently got back from traveling and upon checking her inbox, she found dozens of emails from readers who want to know why Casey Anthony is not helping in the search for Caylee.

"She never wanted her baby and felt put upon to be a mother," Dr. Schurman-Kauflin told Investigation Discovery. "Often in situations like this, the mother is so self absorbed that the only way to get the mother to talk is to make everything about her. If you bring up Caylee, she will shut down. She is not interested. If a chronic liar who feels no remorse knows people need her, she is flush with power."

According to Dr. Schurman-Kauflin, Anthony is manipulating everyone, including the media.

"She knows everyone is waiting with baited breath to hear about Caylee, so she is punishing everyone by being silent. To her, it is unfair that people are more interested in Caylee than her, and she will punish investigators, her family, friends, and the public. Not cooperating and staying quiet is a way of 'getting even' for perceived wrongs. Remember, it is all about her, not Caylee. When you make it about Caylee, she will stop talking. You have seen that already. Right now, Casey is feeling hurt. Her pain is her priority. No one should make the mistake of wondering why she doesn't seem to care that her baby is gone. The truth is, one must look at this from Casey's perspective. She is free now. She thinks if she talks to police, that freedom could be taken away."

Dr. Schurman-Kauflin said that she felt Anthony rejected the limited immunity deal because she felt it was unnecessary.

"She feels safe and would be unaffected by pressure or psychological appeals for the whereabouts of her daughter," Dr. Schurman-Kauflin said. The more she is attacked, the more she will dig in."

However, Dr. Schurman-Kauflin said that there are signs to look for, which could signify Anthony is getting ready to talk.

"Look for her to turn to religion and either attempt to or speak of fleeing. When she gets to that point, she is most likely to talk about what really happened."

Visit Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin's Website at: www.drdsk.com

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Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin's photo courtesy of the Violent Crimes Institute
Casey Anthony's photo - Associated Press

Comments

[POLLITO]

I think that this situation of her been in and out of jail eventually can make her talk,(a bit)....the reason why I think this is because you can tell that this woman enjoy the cameras,all the atention that she gets everytime she is out of the house,and after she is been eating good at home,slepping well in her own bed,avoiding conversations about her daughter`s dissapearence I believe it is difficul for her to be confined in a cell after been under her parent`s mega protection.

[Silver]

I've just read Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin's post. I agree with everything she has stated.

I'd like to ask, in the doctor’s opinion, what leads a person to be like Casey Anthony?

I have mixed feelings about this; many of Casey's behavioral characteristics seem consistent with someone who has been abused.

[Waiting on Forensics]

I agree that for Casey, this is all about Casey and it appears that in her own mind, Caylee is gone and just not an issue for her anymore. I think she feels great relief from the responsibility of parenting and that's what really is important to her. It's hard, as a normal, empathetic human being to imagine someone so selfish but it is a personality disorder that is not so rare. I think the only difference between Casey and others who suffer from her condition is the extreme disregard for her own baby. My nephew has a diagnosis of antisocial personality and he behaves the same way - nothing is ever his fault - can easily hurl insults and painful accusations at his parents/peers and if he is arrested, is only interested in discussing how long it will take to bail him out. If my brother brings up my nephew's irresponsibility or that his behavior is over the top - all communication ceases and he begins to feel "suicidal" or "unloved" or "messed up because of his parents" etc.

He simply cannot feel what others are experiencing and I think that is the case with Casey. These folks are not "insane" but do not adhere to normal cultural values or standards of behavior. I guess it doesn't always end in criminality but often it does and that's when the big problem starts. A son who could threaten to kill a parent??? A parent who could kill a child??? Absolutely unacceptable.

I am not holding my breath any longer in hopes that the "compelling reason" will surface for Casey's behavior. I was hopeful - I really wanted it to turn out that the baby was sold or given away as punishment to her family. Now I think she has done the unthinkable...without thinking.

What's really amazing is how genuinely surprised these folks are when the jig's up and they end up having to pay for their crimes. I think Casey believes that she will get a few months probation for the theft and forgery charges and life will be back to normal..."her normal." (And since we don't know what she will ultimately be charged with, I guess that may be what happens.)

If Cindy, George and Lee want to ever return to "their normal," I think they should lawyer up and distance themselves from their child/sister. Even if there is any interest in movie/publishing rights to this story, there will not be enough left after expenses to support this family for a single year. They should protect their livelihoods, and support networks in anticipation of the inevitable return to real life. This will not be the "one big story" for very long. Just as nobody gives a rat's azz about Scott Peterson now, the same will be the case for this family in very short order.

It's a horrible thing to watch but it is just an amplified version of the psychopathy of many young people who care only of their own hedonistic pursuits.

[M]

I'd recommend the book "The Sociopath Next Door" by Martha Stout to read of people who sure seem a lot like Casey Anthony. That book posits that people end up sociopaths via genetics in part, but other unknown factors also contribute.

[glynne]

WOW!! This short little article articulates Casey's personality...lack there of...extremely well.

It's short, sweet & to the point.

I don't know what makes a person this way, but I think if Cindy & George would have put their foot down when they saw some of this BS starting, this story may have been different. Mostly cause Caylee probably never would have either been put up for adoption or being raised by them.

Pathelogical liars only get away with whatever their families, friends, employers, etc. will allow. If these people would have cut her short when she was stealing, running around partying & all that she'd know that everyone "had her number".

One of my sisters is a pathelogical liar. She knows to NOT EVEN try to talk to me or my hubby cause we'll call her out on it. I get really, really blunt. Not that that stops her from lying, but it at least lets her know that it's all a dead end with us.

I also have to wonder just how much cr@p George & Cindy let her get away with while growing up. In watching Casey's actions, it looks like she had very little structure, guidance or disipline. Without those things your child's actions WILL COME BACK TO HAUNT YOU. Just look at the blog Cindy had on myspace about Casey stealing & "stabbing her in the back".

[Just me]

Thanks so much for this. It brings alot of light to the whole situation.
I do have a question: Why does she wear the notorious Where is Caylee T-shirt?

[Amy-Indiana]

I've always said this from the begining...Casey has supporters in her corner mostly being her attorney. Once she has less contact with him (Hence the 4-6 hour meetings) and she is away from her parents and brother, she will break. In her mind she has "support" for her lies. All this past drama that she started w/ her family has now ceased and they are on her side and she likes that comfort.
Truly sad. I keeping praying they find this little angel that did not ask for all this to happen.

[Elaine Williams]

I completely understand what Dr. Schurman-Kauflin is saying about Casey and that she is flush with power - I get that. What I don't get is that her family is going right along with her bizarre non-story. Can any light be shed on the Anthony family's equally odd behavior?

BTW - Silver is right on.

[Chicago Ray]

One need look no further to see what grew this monster than her pathetic parents who obviously have given this spoiled ***** everything she needed or ever wanted and now they are still doing the same by defending their little murderer to the ledge of absurdity.

So absurd is their defense of her they too should be charged for at least obstruction and even accomplices in the certain murder of Caylee. Anyone can see this woman and quite possibly her former cop (I believe) and nutjob father thoroughly disposed of the baby's body, as she acts with near certainty that she'll never be charged for the murder minus poor Caylee's missing corpse. .

[Ginger]

The mystery behind Caylee's paternity has intrigued me from the beginning. Either Casey really doesn't know who the father is since she has no shortage of partners or she may have conceived as a result of incest. The latter might explain the profound psychological pathology of this woman. Nevertheless, I think Casey Anthony is crazy like a fox. What are the chances of someone who commits murder and hides the body able to elude being charged with murder and the remains not found? Not to mention maintain the blind loyalty of their family? It seems as if Casey has the universe also wrapped around her little finger, since tropical storms in Florida may have eroded whatever remained of the little child's body. When I see Casey so composed and smiling and waving at her family in court and high-fiving her brother, it just makes my skin crawl. I've been a nervous wreck just contesting a traffic ticket! I don't think she'll ever own up to what she has done. Many murderers never reveal the location of their victims' remains as a way, I suppose, of maintaining the last splinter of control on the situation.

[Bonnie]

I would like for the Doctor to coment on the possibility that so much about the case has involved Dora the exploer and she was a role model for Caylee if Casey may have taken her or left her at Mount Dora where she was on the last weekend that Caylee was seen. The parents say they saw her on Monday but this plan was hatching for a long time. I think the original plan was to convince Cindy and George that Caylee was kidnapped and get money out of them. She knew she was being kicked out and needed money and didn't need a child. The last photo of Caylee was with the great grandfather in Mount Dora. Cindy talks about a book Caylee was reading on video and I will bet its Dora the explorer. I believe the child met her demise at the Anthonys but I see a link with Mount Dora and Caylee.

[Grantu8]

I really don't understand why there are so many attacks on this family!? What would you have them do...throw her out to all the bottom feeders in their front yard?!!!

So many "think" they know what's going on behind the Anthonys front door, but I can just about guess you don't even have a clue as to what or how this family feels!!!
George & Cindy don't even speak to Casey....nor does she speak to them.

For the most part, I feel those protesters are wayyyy out of line in some of the things they say to Cindy & George....they should shut their mouths....and protest in silence! They don't have a "RIGHT" to keep going onto the Anthonys property..not to mention yelling and banging on their front door!!!

Just like the rest of you, I have become very interested in what is going on with this family & what has happened to Caylee....as well as Casey...and how she can sit in her room and be so smug about everything...she's the one that desrves all of this wrath....not her parents!!!

[elaine]

I agree with all of the DR's comments. I think most people realize that this woman is basking in all the attention. Finally, in her life, she is the ONE!

But, what if her family, the media, everyone other than Police and her lawyer STOPPED talking to /about her. What IF she is left totally alone, her parents refuse to have her in the house,etc.

What if the attention stops? Maybe she would get bored with just ole Jose to talk to about CAYLEE (not herself). Maybe then she would tire of this little cat/mouse game she is playing and tell what she did with her daughter.

OR..is she waiting for the Million dollar check to make her open up?

Disgraceful human being.

[carol]

I am so curious about why Cassey Anthony spends so much time in her lawyers office. Could it be that she is so loose with the men, that her and her lawyer could be doing something else. I have known people in trouble before and never have they spent 7 or 8 hours in their attorneys office. I guess she is munipulating him as well. Sad excuse for a mom with a missing child

[debra]

I'd like to second M's suggestion about the Martha Stout book. I worked with a sociopath for a while and it was helpful to understand how they seek to manipulate people. It was also interesting to read about the theories of where this disorder originates. I think it is much easier to understand sociopathy (anti-social personality disorder) as a physical, genetic disorder. Sociopaths simply do not have the ability to relate to other people's feelings. Their brains are not normal. We can't change them-we can only learn how not to be manipulated by them-and how to protect other people from them. I am curious about other people in her family and who else shares this disorder with her. I also agree with an earlier post that the biggest mistake the grandparents made was to not do more to protect Caylee. I am somewhat surprised that the therapist Cindy consulted didn't insist that the family do more to protect Caylee before confronting Casey about her financial misdeeds.

[pak31]

The best part of what this doctor talks about is the fact that Casey is self aborbed and will resent anything "Caylee". I too felt that they should so the opposite with her and instead of badgering her or questions upon questions about Caylee, butter her up. Make her the center of attention. Give her what she wants. Maybe it won't make her talk but it would be worth a try. The problem is it would have to be someone Casey trusts. I might be wrong but if someone would side with her and say things like she's better off without Caylee, etc. would that make her talk or would she see it was a scam??
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Also, kind of non related but has anyone heard any reports or interviews that mentioned if CAYLEE ever talked about Zanaida?? I would be interested if Caylee ever mentioned Zanny to Cindy. If Cindy knew that Casey would leave Caylee with this "sitter" then wouldn't it come up in talks with Caylee? I know she was just a little toddler but does anyone think that in general conversation Cindy might have asked Caylee about Zanny?

[loretta]

Baited breath? Surely DS-K means bated.

Casey reminds me of an idiot savant. Maybe part of her defense will be a thorough evaluation and we'll learn just how this monster was created.

[Here]

I have a question - why is she spending so much time (6 hours a day, or so I have read) at her attorney's office? Could it be because (like with other men) she has manipulated or possibly seduced him in some way?

Attorney fees are VERY expensive per hour - is he charging her? And if so - where on earth is the money coming from???

[Linda P Ks]

I wonder if Dr. Schurman-Kauflin would know if Casey Anthony would be charged with murder of Caylee would she talk about what actually happened and where Caylee's body is?

[Angie]

I would really like to know if Casey was a daddy's girl, so to speak. That would shed a lot of light on the whole George Antohny theory od disposing and/or helping the disposal of the body.

[G]

I have to disagree as to why Casey is not talking. Yes, I believe she is a completely selfish person and its all about her. But I believe the reason she is not talking is not a control issue or getting even, but rather, If she tells people where caylee's body is at, she will be charged with murder with no bond. Also, both her and Attorney are waiting to see if she will be charged and hope to use the information she is withholding to work out a deal.

[Lex]

I thought I read somewhere that sociopaths were born, not made. If that's not true, then we are having the old "nature vs. nurture" argument.

The interviewees stated Caylee was extremely flirtatious. That kind of behavior is exhibited in children who are sexually abused. Perhaps Caylee was about to speak about abuse and this is the reason she was murdered.

[G]

I believe there are several reasons why they have become defensive of Casey.
First, that is their daughter, no matter how much of the truth is starring them in the face, they cannot yet come to terms with what their child has done. I can't imagine any parent easily being able to do that. The media and protest scrutiny is probably more than one can handle. Imagine that going on in front of your house. That would be enough to send anyone over the edge. It is insanity what is going on over there. I understand that people are angry for this little girl, but it's making the entire family feel threatened, of course, they are going to go on the defense and see those camped out there as the enemy. With the story that Casey is feeding them, along with the attorney, everything they are going to argue, is going to put that doubt in the families head. Emotionally, Its just easier for them to accept. Who knows if they will ever be able to come to terms with what their daughter did.

[Tea]

A question for the doctor: I have noticed that Casey has made victims of her mother, her grandmother, her best/good friend, Amy, and potentially her own daughter. All female. She has also pegged a female (possibly two in this new, alleged story of the Zenaida's sister) as the bad guy in her tale. What kind of insight into Casey can be learned from this?

Tea
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[Gracie]

Dr. Schurman-Kauflin's insight into the "world of Casey" is very enlightening. I thought, as many of you did, that Casey was acting self-important, spoiled, and emotionless, and took her silence or lack of cooperation as a control or power move against her parents and the police, etc., as well.

I think understanding more of the clinical background of Casey's psyche, what her reactions typically are and what the triggers are (attention to Caylee), give me hope. The next time she finds herself behind bars she will be garnering no attention, cameras or have doting parents to coddle her. I hope and pray she "turns on" her attorney for allowing this to again happen and will shun him for a chance to talk. Hopefully this time the police will use "specialists" to talk to her, taking into account Dr. Schurman-Kauflin's findings.

Social disorders, in my mind, do not excuse the crime. Evil is what it is. I so felt that Casey was capable of being like the Menendez brothers, but so much more the better liar.

My heart breaks for Caylee, and I can only hope that she just went to sleep.

Gracie

[dorsi]

I am glad to see this article as well, I hope she states this on tv or somewhere so that people who don't understand or haven't yet read this article can be better informed.

I have a cousin who is a patholical liar too, she is the worst, she and her family are not welcome in about 8 differnt states with family in them. Each of those families have been burned very badly by her.

[dorsi]

Loretta,

I have been wondering that myself. Is he working pro bono or is he a family lawyer. Maybe that is why they have a pay perview movie deal in the works.

I think anyone who buys her book or pays to see that movie, should be locked up for mental evaluation. I hope nobody buys it.

I wonder if she has told him the truth. How can he sleep at night knowing anything she has told him.

[dorsi]

I found an article last week supposedly written by Cindys brother, Rick. And in it he states George has a very bad temper (we have seen that), that he has made assault on one of his relatives he was in business with.

Don't know if any of it is true, but supposedly one reason they moved from OHIO.

[dorsi]

I agree about Casey being flirtatious, that is probably why she stays at Baez office all day.

Is she his only client? Other people coming in have to see her. Why is he catering to her so much?

Does he do that for all of his clients? I wonder if the case manager allows all of the prisoners in his care to stay 2 hours past their time at their lawyers offices everyday.

[Dissing Casey]

I do not understand why Jose` is always smiling when he and Casey are walking someplace or going to cars/
He just has a weird grin?

I am a Casey Disser....

[Bonnie]

Does anyone know where the photos that were taken while David was in Florida are posted? I emailed him but the address posted is incorrect.

[Lissa]

Casey wears the t-shirt because her attorney has instructed her to do it. Of course he wants to show her as a concerned and caring mother. This is why they have also hired a PR firm. This is why more pictures of her smiling with Caylee are being leaked. In those photos, she looks like any other mom hugging her toddler, smiling and eating cake.

I think there is something deeper here though. She and her brother seem unusually close. When Leonard Padilla suggested that the DNA (hair strand) might have come from a union between her and Lee, it did raise my suspicion that there is possibly a deep and dark secret in the Anthony family. Possibly why Casey acts out like she does. Possibly why the mother Cindy coddles her. It is obvious that she did not bond with Caylee but rather used her to obtain more attention. Which is what she is doing now. If all the media would just go away, she might actually start talking.

You listen to the calls from Casey to her brother, her friends, her mom in jail she sounds so disconnected from reality. Doesn't she realize she could be facing years in prison? This right here tells you she does not have a firm grip on reality. If she did get this "alleged" call from her daughter...wouldn't you think that after a month, this little girl would be begging to come home? Casey contends that she seemed happy and content. What does that mean? It means she's either lying about the call OR it means she never bonded with her mother and is completely fine being with her "Nanny"....at the very least the little girl would be asking for grandma and saying she missed home. So my feeling is this call never happened and she can't produce the cell phone records to prove that it did.

It is obvious that everyone has enabled this girl. Pull that support structure from her from all angles and see what happens. She is very popular with the guys, seems to have a ton of friends and a very active social life. The way she has spoken to people on the phone is extremely condescending but if you notice, everyone walks on eggshells around her.

It sounds like the Anthony household is a dysfunctional place to be.

[Patsy]

I agree with the Dr. as well. This is all about Casey and getting the attention she lost when Caylee came along. However, I believe that the police should be looking at this Tony guy as well. She had many calls to Tony the night Caylee disappeared and she was frantic to talk to him the first day or two in jail? Doesn't anyone else think that maybe this Tony helped her get rid of the body. Maybe that's why she was calling him to make sure he put it in a good hiding place or else to make sure that he wasn't going to talk. It doesn't appear that he ever came to visit her or made any calls to her in jail. What's up with that angle? Even the police aren't talking about him and that's got me confused. He is probably the last person besides Casey who say Caylee alive. Am I crazy to think this or what? Am I the only one wondering about him?

On another point...I think the protestors are completely in the wrong for 2 reasons. 1) They aren't going to accomplish anything being out there. 2) They are harrassing the neighbors and the grandparents who did love Caylee but just screwed up by not comprehending what their daughter was capable of. But if I were them I would have to tell my daughter to spill her guts at least to us (the family) about Caylee or get out of my home. So maybe they do know now what has happened but can't come forward because then they will loose their daughter as well as their grandaughter. I believe that by now they know what's going on and that's why they haven't been involved in looking for Caylee. They just don't know what they should be doing about it. That's another reason for them to get their own attorney as well. Once they are found out then they will probably need him when they are charged with obstruction of justice whatever else they can charge them with. Remember that her father was with the police dept and he isn't going to say anything until he is sure where he stands and what steps he needs to take.

On the babysitter. I don't believe there was ever a babysitter. I believe that Casey was angry that she believed that her parents cared more for Caylee then for her (in her own mind) so she became angry with Caylee and decided to get her place in their hearts and house back by getting rid of Caylee and becoming the heartbroken, distressed little girl who needed saving. She was blaming Caylee because that was easier than taking a good close look at herself and taking the responsibility for screwing up her own life. This was in her mind the easy way out and it should have solved all of her problems. She would again be Mommy/Daddy's little girl and they would give her everything like they always have and feel sorry for her. On the flip side she could have been just trying to punish her parents for loving Caylee and throwing her out. Either way she was trying to get her place in their lives back and thought this would do it. What a sick, twisted girl we have here.

[K]

I was just thinking about the chloroform...
Anyone remember that her ex boyfriend was a cop? And supposedly he stepped down from his job, at least I've heard that. He probably got fired...anyway I wonder if he was the one who got the chloroform? Someone said it was a large amount, and you can only find that in hospitals and crime labs and what not. So maybe he's the one who got that for her, and he "quit" his job suddenly...

[Bonnie]

For those of you that wonder about Casey spending the entire day with the attorney, I wondered that from the very beginning. I think she goes to the attorneys office to get the public and media off her back and then she moves on to other places. It would not be hard to do. I know all she has to do is tell her confinement officer WHERE she IS. Everyone would go along with the game because Casey could come to a bad end if the public found out she was going in the front door and out the back. What attorney could do any business with a client in his office all day? Casey would require more than magazines and Hbo.

[rebecca]

Hmm. I don't think there's any real deep dark family secret here. I think it's all pretty face value.

Casey (just judging from her demeanor on phone calls with her family and friends) has classic spoiled child syndrome. She clearly called the shots in that family; Daddy's little girl, the baby - if you will. And when baby doesn't get her way, she pulls a fit. Hence her whole "OMG, it was a waste calling you..." tirade. She sounded like a spoiled brat who wasn't getting her way.

That being said - we all know those personality types DO tend to be very selfish and self centered. Me, me, me, me.

Whats so disturbing is to think that the selfishness would run so deep as to have overtaken a maternal instinct to care for her child; to protect her child. I believe in my heart of hearts Caylee's death was accidental -- I don't think she meant to kill her. The coverup of it though, clearly not an accident. Its mind numbing to me that there is no conscience of guilt not only for what was done to her child - but to the impact it is all going to have on her family.

My heart breaks for Cindy and George; they clearly are in a horrible situation that no one would ever dream of having to be in. They don't know how to deal with it properly and as their attorney said on tv which made tons of sense to me -- they are just trying to process all of the information and refuse to give up hope. Until they see a body folks - they more than likely aren't going to believe that Caylee is gone, nor will they believe Casey did it unless she confesses. That's just the way it is, and to a certain extent I can understand that.

I just wish there was a way to make Casey uncomfortable enough to the point of confessing. She knows she doesn't have to say a word....and unless she's made to talk, she wont.

The only thing I keep going back to is putting her in front of the media. Let her spin her web of kidnapping tales in the forum -- plea to the "kidnappers" for the return and get out composite drawings. This girl clearly loves to talk when she feels she can. And you know the media would interrogate her better than any police department. Put her in the spotlight and let the vultures have at her...

[Lynette]

My Fox Orlando is reporting that Casey spends her time at the attorney's office online chatting ??

Fox 35 reporter Holly Bristow made the discovery.
Holly’s sources tell her that when Casey is at home and even sometimes at her attorneys office, she spends some time on her computer and on one site in particular, Facebook.

[Brooksie]

I am telling you. If we all ignore Casey, and not give her the time of day, she will do anything to get that attention back, including coming clean of what happened to that poor child.

Casey hate Caylee because she got all the attention, even her ex roomate said Caylee was the life of the party when she was around.

Casey got tired of all the attention going to Caylee. So if you ignore her, and just speak of Caylee then Casey will crack.

[Sherry C.]

" If a chronic liar who feels no remorse knows people need her, she is flush with power." This made me think of Casey's ditty, With great power comes great conse quences. Casey will pay the consequences for what she has done. " The truth is, one must look at this from Casey's perspective. She is free now. She thinks if she talks to police that freedom could be taken away." Her freedom is already taken away. Her life is forever changed whether she fesses up or not. I doubt much she could ever live her life as before even if she gets off scot-free for what she did to her daughter. But I wonder, does a self centered person really have freedom? They are in bondage to getting the attention they crave. And they are not happy when people don't bow to their whims. Payday is someday.

[Dianne]

well i want to say is this is so bad when you have people what by there house, i feel protester NEED TO GO HOME. and stop going throgh there garbage, with thse people by there house is so sad!!! i wish people that are looking for attion need to go home, people who want to look for child well i hope you fine child. but come in its getting oit or order, when the mother goes to court she will not get fair hearing, that;s wrong, please repect family, think if you were in thers shoes dianne

[anne]

Casey is an obvious sociopath and the jail house phone calls was the first clue. The reason she isn't talking is because she has nothing to say. She has spun her web and it's tangled from the get go, and she is smart enough to listen to her lawyer and has shut her trap because the tangled web she had weaved before has been exposed. She seems to me to also be a meth user or something along those lines. My take is she wanted to party, be a twenty something year old that had the ball and chain of a child. She couldn't afford a babysitter so she either druged the baby or left her in her car (or both) and the baby accidently died, she panicked and buried her after leaving her in the truck for a day or two while she figured out how to dispose of the body. As far as the paternity, it seems right that the baby may be her brothers, because the name of the baby is Casey and Lee together. Insest isn't as uncommon as one thinks, especially with sociopaths. As far as the parents, yeah, they are in on it now, they know. This is where the anger comes from, but again we sit in judgement but this family is part of our society, on our TV, in our music, look at who runs this country. I am sorry for this baby who never had a chance. I just wish mama could just say where she put her and let the baby have a proper burial. Gosh how sad this story is.

[GK]

What happened to the gas in the gas cans? Obviously it wasn't used for the car. Could it be possible that she burned the body up with the gas?

[Jill from Western Australia]

Her lawyer STATED that we would fee "SORRY" for Casey when we found out the TRUTH!!!!....STILL WAITING!!!!!!!

I had prayed that Casey SOLD Caylee for drugs...or at least allowed her to be taken hostage...SADLY...I was WRONG!

George/Cindy & Lee MUST have known about Casey's drug/alcohol addiction...THEY KNEW THAT SHE WAS STEALING FROM EVERONE including the family!!!!...did they think she was "buying nappies with the money that she stole???" NOT IN YOUR WILDEST DREAMS!!!

ARE THE AUTHORITIES DRUG TESTING CASEY ON A REGULAR BASIS???

IMO Casey killed Caylee...going to have to wait until she is convicted...meanwhile put her in a cell with Drew Peterson...they really would "get along!!!"

CASEY IS THE MOST DESPICABLE PERSON because she DIDN'T save the life of her BEAUTIFUL CHILD!!!!....GRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!

[Acey]

There is ONE thing I know of that Casey did NOT lie about.

Apparently, she told friends she did NOT WANT the baby.

Maybe we as a society should learn to favor adoption out rather than trying to keep, in a family, a baby whose own mother simply does not want it.

[Tea]

"There is ONE thing I know of that Casey did NOT lie about.

Apparently, she told friends she did NOT WANT the baby.

Maybe we as a society should learn to favor adoption out rather than trying to keep, in a family, a baby whose own mother simply does not want it."

I have an issue with this statement by Casey. Mainly that she is the one who said it. Casey says different things to different people at different times. Whatever works for her at that moment. If she said the sky was blue, I'd need to verify it for myself.

Tea
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[Andie]

GK,
Do you mean Scott Peterson? How do you know that she had a drug and alcohol addiction? I read the 400 some odd pages of the report and out of those interviewed it was never revealed she was an addict. Not defending her, something is not right with that girl, but your statement sounds as if that had been confimed, and if so, where?

[Teresa Birmingham, alabama]

I feel the profiler is exactly correct about Casey…
Maybe if we turn off the attention she is getting she will start talking to get the attention back…

[steven]

I am wondering if the grandparents have ever had contact or met with this nanny/babysitter Zaneida Gonzalez that had been "watching" Caylee for most of her life. Also, it is no doubt that the enabling that they have provided for Casey is now and probobly has always been beyond belief!!! The Anthony family and the truth are total strangers!!!!!

[Deech]

Caylee = Casey + Lee

[Gracie]

Wow. The connection from Casey and her brother's name Lee to be: Caylee... good grief, that would explain brother's secret code talk... and daddy-dearest's temper.... add that to poor innocent Casey as another freak-gene...

I have to agree with those about the protestors possibly making it worse. I, too, feel helpless and probably could easily get caught into that if I lived so close... instead of watching Hurricane Ike I'm here discussing Caylee and her sick family. I think in a normal situation with normal folks, or at least those with a modicum of social behaviors, the pressure of protesting could eventually guilt someone into breaking.

I know this is a cheap shot, and not worth the time it takes you to read it, but I wish they could "water-board" Casey into getting information. I know, stupid. But to think of that poor baby in a cold swamp somewhere.

Casey isn't lying when she says Caylee is safe and not wanting to come home. She knows in whatever part of her being that has decency that Caylee is in heaven. That is the marker I think, that and the cryptic myspace? facebook? note about "death" being inevitable, or "everybody lies, everybody dies."

Casey will ride this pony into the ground and she will never speak. Any pressure to confront her will cause her to dig her heels in because then she will tell herself "she is being attacked, clam up". Holding back information about Caylee is two-fold. A punishment for her mom, Cindy, wanting Casey to move out and grow up. And secondly, she is smart enough to know what those horrible people in Aruba did to Natalie Holloway... "no body, no crime." Funny about this country, we don't have a dog and pony show running most of our courts... at least unless you are O.J. or Phil Specter. I don't think George & Cindy can rate the $$$ it takes to mount one of those defenses, though.

I was curious, maybe cruelly though, to think, now what would've happened if the parents refused to let her come to their house to serve out her bond time while awaiting trial on each of the charges? Wouldn't that have made a statement to the public and to Casey that Caylee WAS/IS their primary concern at that time? And what would Casey have done? I don't even think that would've been a stretch - she had seemed to have "moved out" over the month before, so technically didn't "live there"... I guess her parents were still in the Hope Mode and on the outside looking in, it seems they could've probed or put pressure on Casey for information. Seems that NONE of her friends, even boyfriends, are coming to her defense.

I haven't read much more about this, with election stuff and hurricanes, just the additional fraud or stealing charges, and then the chloroform evidence. And we haven't even started with Hurricane Casey's defense team when they start spinning all of that, discrediting the police, the labs, the leaks - and of course if that stupid ex-cop ex-boyfriend handled one shred of evidence, can anyone say "mistrial" or "misconduct" or "acquitted". This better not happen.

I still think the parents (George & Cindy) were aiding & abetting, have tampered with evidence, and aside all the meetings Cindy had with LE over the first weeks, have inhibited the investigation by encouraging and continuing with the false leads.

I hope in the end, the real Zenaida lady that was connected loosely with that apartment sues Casey and her family for defamation of character and slander. I truly think that case would hold, no matter what, that poor woman's name has been ruined.

Sorry folks. I also feel adoption would have been the best thing. But, somehow the parents wanted Caylee to teach Casey to grow up. They didn't want to be like so many other grandparents over the country, raising the grandchildren because the kid they raised is not fit. Seems a little selfish on their part, too. They used Caylee as a pawn against Casey.

Again, that's my take. Not worth the space it took up, or the time to write it or read it, but somehow through this wonderful place David Lohr has created, ID, I hope crime investigator-trainees and trainers will see that sometimes the evidence isn't as plain as the nose on your face, but the devil's in the details ... fine little clues dropped here and there in the clues Casey has left.

Gracie~~