Criminal Profiler Shares More Thoughts on Caylee Anthony Case

August 03, 2008

Last week, Investigation Discovery enrolled the help of criminal profiler Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin, President of the Violent Crimes Institute, LLC, to help us better understand the psyche of Casey Anthony. Since that time, both ID and Dr. Schurman-Kauflin have been inudated with hundreds of emails about her profile of Anthony. As a result, Dr. Schurman-Kauflin has agreed to revisit the case and to give her professional opinion on why women murder their children.

"Women who kill their children tend to be very needy. They need attention and an outlet for their frustrations," Dr. Schurman-Kauflin said. "Being self absorbed is common. Over time, the responsibility of raising children becomes frightening to them. They do not feel mature enough to handle their own lives, let alone the lives of little ones. So they begin to revert as a form of saying 'I can't take this.' In other words, they become child-like. Prior to killing, they begin slipping into increasingly outlandish behaviors. It is a twisted form of a cry for help. So, instead of staying home with the children and working on becoming more emotionally stable, they engage in teenager type behaviors. They have affairs and quit their jobs. Going out at a moment's notice becomes routine and they withdraw from their children."

Once they start withdrawing, Dr. Schurman-Kauflin said, they begin to lose themselves in fantasy - thinking about what their lives were like before they had children.

"I coined a term in 1999, when I interviewed female serial killers and mass murderers. This term is a White Picket Fence Fantasy. Women who kill tend to long for a knight to come to their rescue and take care of them. This fantasy plays repeatedly in their minds. When they have to break from their fantasies and actually tend to their children, the burdens of being mothers become overwhelming, and they just want out. It is here that Instead of feeling love for their flesh and blood, they feel anger. Everything that has gone wrong becomes the fault of the child."

• "If only that child had not been born"
• "If only she had the freedom to live her life"
• "If only..."

According to Dr. Schurman-Kauflin, those questions eventually turn into an obsession and in time the mother will only think of what she wants.

"These thoughts haunt her until one day, something stressful happens," Dr. Schurman-Kauflin said. "Usually, it involves the breakup of a relationship or the introduction of a new lover who finds children unappealing. Females who kill their children tend to see themselves as being very sensual and attractive, and being discarded is too much for them to bear. It does not match with the idealized self that they have created in their minds. So they begin to think of ways to have the lover. They cannot allow a threat to their self image, so they take steps to quell the increasing internal discord. The females project the rejection onto the children and come to believe that if the children were not there, then life would be good. This is the point where plans are made to murder the little obstacles."

Dr. Schurman-Kauflin said there are many red flags in the Casey Anthony case and she finds it disturbing that Anthony has done little to help investigators find her missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony. 

"I have volunteered to help parents of murdered children, and I can say unequivocally that every parent I have ever worked with cooperated fully with police," Dr. Schurman-Kauflin said. "There were no lies to authorities. Innocent parents are desperate to find a missing child. They make themselves sick with worry. Ms. Anthony comes across as being more worried about herself than Caylee. She is flat emotionally when it comes to her missing child. There were lies from the beginning and an attempt to mislead police. Her actions are terribly abnormal and inconsistent with those of a grieving parent."

However, there is, according to Dr. Schurman-Kauflin, a way to break her.

"The strain of the current situation will wear on those around her and pressure her to explain her behavior. Because she cannot explain her lies, she will blame everyone else. She will want to flee. She may even reach for religion as a means to cope, and depression is likely to follow. Then police will be able to talk with her to find out what she really knows. Detectives will be able to get information from her. The key for officers is to know her patterns and approach her the right way. If they key in on her personality, they will be able to get her to tell what really happened."

Visit Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin's Website at: www.drdsk.com

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Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin's photo courtesy of the Violent Crimes Institute
Casey Anthony's photo - Associated Press

Comments

[Joe]

If you claim "white picket fence fantasy," then I claim "white picket fence complex," "white picket fence defense," etc...

[kelly]

Any thoughts on how Caylee died?

[sami]

cindy, george and lee... stop complaining about the media and start pumping your twisted dauthter casey for info !!

How stupid can you all be ?! don't give ger a day's rest until she cracks,,push harder, trick her ...what ever it takes...she knows what happened to caylee and it involves NO ONE ELSE.

[Juli]

I think it's completely possible that Casey is a selfish person who told herself she loved her daughter but made a selfish mistake. This would make her fit the seeming conflict of two personalities we keep hearing from those who knew her... the "great mother" vs "the cold, detached woman who seems to care only about herself, not her husband."

I would say it's likely Casey made a mistake that cost her daughter her life... Locking her in a hot car, perhaps, so that she could go out with her friends but keep the illusion of a great job that could afford her a nanny. Then she realized her mistake, was truly distraught, but eventually told herself she had to preserve the pieces of her life that she could. So she lied because she knew if she went to the police all her other lies would come out and cost her the boyfriend she was so concerned with in those first hours in jail and those new "friends" from the association with him.

In a situation like that (accidental death, with lies to cover it up), it also explains her behavior now. She knows Caylee is gone, so she has closed that part off. Instead, we hear comments to her family like "all anybody cares about is Caylee" and rumors of her lawyer asking for immunity if she tells her story. She is wanting reassurance in the first that she won't lose everything for her mistake and, in the latter, wanting a way to tell her story without losing her freedom.

There is certainly sickness here, but the point is, I think she can be both very selfish and disturbed and not have set out to murder her daughter. Less selfish and more honest people have made mistakes... they were just living life in such a way that they could reach out for help when they did. I don't believe Casey has ever put herself in a position where she can. And now she and everyone close to her (and the rest of us horrified by the story and wanting a resolution) are paying the price.

[T in Columbus, OH]

My thoughts...

If it looks like a duck,
walks like a duck,
talks like a duck...
It probably is a duck.

I really wish I knew the addresses of Casey's boyfriends, the clubs she frequented, her parent[s house, and the location the car was found. Casey made a comment during one of her jailhouse phone conversations and said something to the effect of "centrally locating her belongings at Tony's". I am just curious - if Tony's is the centralized location... What exactly is it central to? Perhaps her daughter is somewhere within a particular radius central to Tony's... Now with Casey's most recent conversation with her dad, "she's close dad, real close" I hope investigators are closing in on these subtle leads. I also think that Casey's cell phone may be buried near the body. I do not believe Casey lost her phone as she has said. She says to her brother during another jailhouse phone conversation that they need to recover the cell phone. To me the use of the word "recover" is very telling. If the phone were just lost - one would indicate needing to "find" a missing phone. One of the definitions I found of recover is: to bring back from error or wrongdoing. "We need to recover my phone"... we need to find my phone... see the difference. It's as if she knows she ditched it somewhere and buried it - not just randomly lost.

[Sleuth]

T;

Here are the addresses I’ve found so far

Anthony home
- 4937 Hopespring Dr,
- Orlando FL 32829

Zenaida’s most recent address
- 2863 s. Conway rd.
- Sawgrass Apartments
- Apt 210
- (vacant since Feb. 29)

Zenaida’s prior residence (early to mid 2006)
- 301 n. Hillside Drive
- seniors only community

Zenaida’s prior residence
- The Crossings at Conway community
- 4279 Michigan Ave & S. Conway rd.

Intersection where car was found
- Amscot check cashing business
- Glenwood and Robinson

Address where Casey was staying until July 15
Casey said (i.e., don’t believe it) that she started living here when Caylee went missing)
- Ricardo Morales & Amy Huizenga
- 232 Glenwood
- address on note in car

Casey lived with Tony Lazzaro starting June 9th
- no end date given
- no address given

[T in Columbus, OH]

If I were looking for Caylee - I would first plot the locations of the addresses she was known to frequent.. her boyfriends, her parents, Amy's, location car was found... I would look at all the points plotted and look for any areas on or around that route. The points tend to make a circular area on the map. I have a theory. What if Casey buried Caylee behind her parent's house while they were on vacation - but then decided to move the body after she had more time to think about a better, remote location. If I had to hide a body (God forbid), I would do it late at night so no one could see me. I would also pick a location that wasn't too far away - wouldn't want to travel too far with a dead body in my car. Also would tend to pick a location that had roads, but no traffic or people living in the area. A new development where roads would provide access, yet there wouldn't be any inhabited houses existing. I found, "Belle Vista, Conway's Newest Luxury Lakefront Community has released floor plans and pricing information".. This developing community is located only 6 miles away from Casey's parents (close to home). It is practically a straight shot from her parent's house. There is also a lake nearby - and I had read somewhere that mother's tend to dispose of their children in a body of water - it's easier than burying and there is something tranquil about water... Again - my thoughts. I really wish police would find this body - it's going to be a lot easier to convict the mother with a body. Of course I hope that Caylee is still alive - but I am a realist and so far I do not think it is coincidence (or a mistake) that 2 cadaver dogs hit on scents at the Anthony home as well as the Anthony car. Seems to me, there is a body that needs to be found.

[T in Columbus, OH]

Here is a map I made with some of the locations provided by Sleuth (above).. to go along with my previous post.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&mrt=all&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105962127062309662390.000453a32fa596bace354&ll=28.524813,-81.317368&spn=0.273291,0.4422&z=11

[Joe Hawk]

The one thing I have not heard is Casey's explanation for the abandoned car with her pocketbook on the front seat. What is her explanation, or hasn't she given one yet?

[Andres]

Larry King interview with Cindy. Keep in mind, this is all conjecture. I picked it apart i few days ago

Cindy Anthony: My thoughts are a lot clearer now than they were that night that I made three 911 calls. I’m very confident that Casey will be exonerated of all charges once we find Caylee, so that’s why our focus is on trying to find our granddaughter.

King: So you feel she’s definitely alive?

Anthony: I believe she is alive when Casey handed her off to the baby sitter. At this point, I just hope to God that no one has done anything to her. SETTING THE STAGE FOR MISSING BODY. NO BODY, NO DEATH PENALTY

King: Why did you turn your daughter in?

Anthony: Well, a little background, Casey had gone on an extended trip, kind of trying to figure out — she’s 22. We were talking about when it might be the right time for her and Caylee to move out. Her trip just kept getting extended and extended, which was really not a red flag, I mean, the trip itself. There would be a few days at a time that she would go and stay with friends. She went from a couple different friends, and I never got a chance to speak with Caylee during that time.

I would ask Casey periodically if she could put Caylee on the phone or whatever, and there was always a very reasonable excuse. VERY REASONABLE EXCUSE?! Either, she was napping or she was already in bed. By the time I get home from work sometime in the evening and I would be able to speak to my daughter, it would be time for Caylee to be napping or going to bed.

King: So she finally comes home?

Anthony: Well, what happened was, to set the background right, she had told me that she had been in Jacksonville for the last week and a half. We had gotten a notice in the mail that we had a registered letter. We found the registered letter a few days before, but it was the weekend, so we had to go down and get it. When we got it, my husband found out it was from a tow truck or a towing company.

When we actually went down and found out that the car that she, you know, uses was not in Jacksonville. It was in Orlando and (when) we found out the date, that was a huge red flag.

I started calling her friends and I found one friend that had just seen her a few hours prior, and she took me to where Casey was at. When I got there, there was no Caylee so I started to feel like, “What’s going on?” She had told me that she was at the sitter’s, so we took her friend home. Her friend and her, and I drove around for a while. It was later in the evening, about 7, 7:30. That’s typically when we start getting Caylee down for a nap and Casey’s response was that Caylee was probably already getting ready for bed and didn’t want to disrupt her. IF THERE WERE RED FLAGS, DISTURBING HER WOULD HAVE BEEN THE PRUDENT THING TO ENSURE YOUR GRANDDAUGHTER IS SAFE.

But being the selfish grandma that I am, I wanted to see my granddaughter. So we drove around a bit, and I tried to convince her to take me to her. I just started getting an eerie feeling that something wasn’t right in Casey’s voice. I know my daughter pretty well.

King: Cindy, are you now saying you believe your daughter — you want her to come out, and you believe that we’re going to find Caylee?

Anthony: I believe we’re going to find Caylee if the investigation goes the right way, if the media will not just take their own spins on things. I was in shock that first night and there’s a lot of things — the first phone call, there was no panic in my voice. The second phone call, a little frustrated. The third phone call, by the time my daughter had spoken to my son and actually said that Caylee had been kidnapped, I walked in on that conversation. So the police were going to be taking their time to get to the house, so I said whatever it was to get them out there, right then and there. Video Watch what the 911 caller said »

King: When she (Caylee) was gone for 31 days, didn’t you think that was a little nuts?

Anthony: No, not really. NO, NOT REALLY????!!!!!!!MY DAUGHTER GETS AWAY FROM ME OR ANYONE IN MY FAMILY FOR MORE THAN 5 SECONDS AND WE ARE FREAKING OUT…SO WOULD MOST PARENTS I KNOW! THIS SETS THE POSSIBILITY THAT SHE ALREADY KNOWS SOMETHING. I think what’s nuts is for people to speculate on things that they don’t know the whole truth. WE DON’T KNOW THE TRUTH BECAUSE NOTHING BUT LIES COME OUT OF ALL OF THEM!

King: So is it the suspicion that the baby sitter kidnapped her?

Anthony: That’s not suspicion. That’s what Casey has maintained all along. AND OF COURSE WE KNOW HOW TRUTHFUL CASEY HAS BEEN. B Y HER OWN ADMISSION CASEY IS A LIAR OF THE WORSE KIND. SO THIS OF COURSE IS DIFFERENT RIGHT?

King: Did you get a ransom note?

Anthony: No, it’s not that type of kidnapping, sir. VERY DEFENSIVE RESPONSE…A JUSTIFICATION. IN MY EXPERIENCE I NEVER CLASSIFIED A KIDNAPPING AS A TYPE. THEY ARE ALL TREATED EQUALLY. IN FACT, THE ONES THAT DO NOT ASK FOR RANSOM ARE USUALLY MORE PRESSING THAN THE ONES THAT DO, THINK ABOUT IT, IF THEY DON’T ASK FOR RANSOM IS BECAUSE THEY EITHER HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO HER OR ARE PLANNING TO. AUTHORITIES KNOW THIS, INCLUDING RETIRED DETECTIVES! This person loves this girl and wants to have her as her own. That happens all the time. That happened not too long ago. In Orlando, Florida, someone stole the baby right out of a hospital.

King: So she’s a runaway with this child?

Anthony: I believe so. SHE HAS GONE FROM SURE THING RESPONSES TO “I BELIEVE SO” AND “I HOPE SO”…HMMMMM

King: And you’re saying the authorities are not looking for that baby sitter and the child?

Anthony: Well, let me tell you why I say that. ONCE AGAIN, AN APOLOGY, A JUSTIFICATION. CLASSIC SIGNS OF TRYING TO EXPLAIN AWAY A STATEMENT RIDDLED WITH INCONSISTENCIES. TYPICALLY HEARD FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE EITHER LYING, DENYING, OR HIDING SOMETHING. It’s because they told us there was one person in central Florida with that name. In fact, there’s nine in central Florida. I just got a phone call on my way here that there’s four in Fort Lauderdale and my daughter said that this girl had a Fort Lauderdale number and has connections in Fort Lauderdale and New York and New Jersey.
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In every state, there’s people by this name. A DEVIATION. THIS IS A CLASSIC LAWYERING TACTIC USED TO CREATE DOUBT. BY USING A COMMON NAME, THEY HAVE NOW DELAYED THE INVESTIGATION EVEN FURTHER BY TYING UP LAW ENFORCEMENT IN INVESTIGATING EVERYONE THAT HAS THAT NAME. I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND WAS DONE ON THIS NAME AND THEY GOT MORE THAN ONE HIT. LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS EVEN CLOSER TO RULE THEM OUT AS A SUSPECT. They think she’s smart enough to make up this person for the last two and a half years, but dumb enough to park a car where in plain sight that her mother would drive by twice a day and see and leave her purse in the front seat of the car and not drive it into some lake. A RUSE. MAKING HER DAUGHTER LOOK STUPID AS TO MAKE THEM THINK THERE IS NO WAY SHE COULD HAVE THOUGHT THIS UP ON HER OWN. MAYBE SETTING THE STAGE FOR AN ACCOMPLICE, THUS, AVOIDING CERTAIN CHARGES.
Anthony: I believe we’re going to find Caylee if the investigation goes the right way,SETTING THE STAGE TO BLAME AUTHORITIES. LAWYER TACTIC…BLAME THE COPS AND HOPE TO TAKE SOME GUILT AWAY FROM YOU IN A BOTCHED INVESTIGATION. I BELIEVE THIS WAS A COACHED RESPONSE BY THE ATTORNEY… if the media will not just take their own spins on things. I was in shock that first night and there’s a lot of things…

Anthony: I believe she is alive when Casey handed her off to the baby sitter. At this point, I just hope to God that no one has done anything to her. OK, SHE HOPES TO GOD NO ONE HAS DONE ANYTHING TO HER…BUT SHE LATER IN THE SAME INTERVIEW GOES ON TO SAY:

“This person loves this girl and wants to have her as her own. That happens all the time. That happened not too long ago. In Orlando, Florida, someone stole the baby right out of a hospital…” SO WHICH IS IT…THIS PERSON LOVES HER, OR IS SHE REALLY WORRIED THAT SOMEONE HAS DONE SOMETHING TO HER?

I would not be surprised if there was a criminal background done by the Anthony’s or their lawyer on one Zenaida Gonzalez…well check out what I found in a free search alone!

http://criminalsearches.com/summary.aspx?input=name&fn=zenaida&ln=gonzalez&city=&state=&zip=

This is now makes law enforcement look into everyone with that name that has a criminal history...more delays.

This whole thing points to a very simple, and disturbing revelation, this crime was committed for one reason only, Casey did not want to be burdened anymore with the responsibilities of motherhood. This would not be my thoughts had she acted with a little more decorum, respect, and shown any form of humanity. But since I really dug into this, and looked at all the evidence, calls, videos, etc, I get a sense of there is no deep seeded issue here, no mental disorder, no abuse…this is the worse kind of crime, this disgusting whore killed her baby girl because she got in the way and was thrown away like a used toy. This is the most disturbing aspect of this whole case, its the fact that the only motive seems to be selfish vanity…

[Andres]

Posted by:T in Columbus, OH | August 04, 2008 at 12:13 PM

The one thing I have not heard is Casey's explanation for the abandoned car with her pocketbook on the front seat. What is her explanation, or hasn't she given one yet?

In response to this:

When this goes to trial, many theories on this will be brought forward by her sleaze bag attorney. This way, the jury will not be able to convict on the bigger charges. I think they will charge her with FDM, if they find the body, or the lesser charges of SDM and manslaughter in the first degree, if Caylee is not found; present all of the evidence and weigh it against the factors that would warrant any of the charges levied against her. The fact that the purse was still inside the vehicle points to a hasty decision of sorts. Which the attorney will probably use as “she was scared” or “it was a crime of passion, not premeditated”. Which will overshadow any evidence of first degree murder.

I am sure they are trying to determine what happened during the time she was missing as we speak. That is the meat and potatoes of this case I think. Where was she? what was she doing? who was she with? was Caylee still alive during this time? And the evidence they have now is enough to charge her, but not to convict...there are still too many unanswered questions that need to be cleared before they bring this in front of a grand jury for indictment. The time lapse is what they are all trying to put together. But as of right now, there has been no explanation that has been made public.

[T in Columbus, OH]

Does anyone know Tony Lazarro's address? Just interested in knowing... Also - I guessed the location of the Amscot (check cashing business). So if anyone knows the exact address of that too... Also I don't know whether the address for Ricardo Morales & Amy Huizenga is NORTH or SOUTH 232 Glenwood, but each seem to be close to one another. I didn't plot the babysitter's locations on the map.. because I don't tend to believe the validity of the locations, however the address of: 2863 s. Conway rd. is close by everything anyway.

[Sleuth]

T;

First, everything that follows is hypothetical and alleged.

Based on what’s been reported about the “hits” from the cadaver dogs, it seems likely that Casey thought about burying Caylee in the back yard but then decided not to. I could see her stashing the body in the play house until she picked a spot and then moving the body to where she was going to burry it (which would explain the multiple “hits”). But I don’t think it’s likely that she actually buried the body and then went back several days later to dig it up. That’s just too gruesome. I also think it’s unlikely she went there at night when people would be around. It seems much more likely that she would do it during the day when she could see what she is doing. Digging in the dark in a yard can be noisy, if she stepped on or dug up flowers, it would be a dead giveaway. Keep in mind that she would need to make sure that the hole was deep enough so that it would not be dug up next spring. Cindy has stated that a weed barrier in the garden was not broken and there wasn’t any other fresh spots dug up. Also, the early report of fresh concrete has been debunked. Your idea about burying a body in a construction site seems very risky to me because it’s likely that the body will be discovered during construction. Lakes and rivers are not necessarily a great idea either because the body could float. You would have to count on the body being eaten by animals, but even then, it’s possible that bones could be found.

Following the money, from the beginning of June, she was living off money and credit cards she took from her parents. We can assume that she did not have access to money or credit when she ran out of gas (otherwise, she would have gotten gas). We also know that in July she stole about $1,000 from Amy Huizenga. So it’s reasonable to conclude that the money she took from her parents ran out sometime near the end of June and it took her a little time to find new sources of money.

If she had no cash and the body was still in the trunk when she ran out of gas, she couldn’t risk leaving the car unattended with a dead body in the trunk, particularly if the car was starting to give off a strong odor. Therefore, she would have had to dispose of the body quickly. If that’s the case, then my guess is she made a hasty decision to put the body in a dumpster. In her haste, she left her pocketbook in the car.

I’m waiting to hear if there is a surveillance camera in the parking lot where the car was abandoned.

My second guess is that she buried the body in Blanchard park, which is about 3 mile from where the car ran out of gas.

This is going to make a good book and movie someday, you can’t make this stuff up (or, maybe you can).

[Brandi]

Where is the biological father? If letting her out of jail will bring the child home than why wont the police do just that to see where the case turns then?

[T in Columbus, OH]

...nothing is too gruesome for a sociopath/psychopath... If there is a body, it would probably be inside of something else, like a garbage bag or a suitcase or trunk - making it not as gruesome to relocate. I've watched a lot of true crime and real crime never ceases to amaze me.

[T in Columbus, OH]

I wonder how long after a body is dead that it starts putting off a decomposition smell - that the dogs would hit on... Do we know anything about that?

[T in Columbus, OH]

Sleuth, why do you think she borrowed a shovel from the neighbors? I don't think she would go to the trouble to borrow a neighbor's shovel to dig up those stubborn bamboo shoots... I really don't think so. She really needed a shovel for some reason. I find it hard to believe that she needed a shovel so bad - to dig up the bamboo shoots that day. Hard to believe.

[Jan]

While I agree with Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin on most of her points. My questions are the following:

If she left her parents home because as she said she wanted to bond with her daughter Caylee--how was she supporting herelf without a job or income???
Where would she get the money to pay for a "Nanny"?. (she specifically used the word "Nanny")
From what I have seen and heard her parents adored little Caylee and would have taken care of the child. so therefore, if she wanted to be single and go out and party and live with boyfriends--all she would have had to do was leave Caylee in the custody of her parents permanently. Why KILL the child??? Was she jealous and resentful of her own child???

Casey Anthony is a patholigical liar with sociopathic tendencies. She has no concept of truth or consequence to her actions. She is manipulative,self-absorbed and obviously has a serious personality disorder. These people leave a train wreck everywhere they go. In some ways they are evil because they hurt those around them and cant see any wrong in themselves. The worse part of all this is that Caseys parents refuse to see that their daughter is lying and probably responsible for the missing child. They are in denial and are simply aiding and abetting her outrageous stories.

Any mother whose child is missing would scream from the rooftops in pain and spend every waking moment looking for their child---all this mother cares about is herself.

If she is guilty she will probably be sent to a mental institution and be out on the street in a few years.
If she did wilfully kill her baby girl--I would send her to death row and execute her.

My prayers are that little Caylee will still be found but my head tells me that the cadaver dogs did find the scent of Caylees dead body.

[Adele]

Why didn't Casey just leave Caylee with her grandparents and then go off and live her life anyway she (Casey) pleased? Why did she have to subject Caylee to danger? I agree, her parents need to wake up and see the clear writing on the wall. Casey does not care about ANYONE, including her daughter or family -- Casey only cares about Casey.

[Ivy]

Dr.Schurman-Kauflin, your analysis of the Anthony case is intriguing and informative.
I wonder if you could discuss more of the family's enabling--so similar to the Scott Peterson family's perpetual maintenance of his innnocence. Why can't the Anthonys see? Is it because, as the saying goes, they are "part of the problem, and not part of the solution"? Surely you feel that they are integral to Casey's pathology.
Are the police being so circumpect so as to dot all the i's and cross the t's? Surely they believe Ms. Anthony to have murdered Caylee . . .
More thoughts, please.

[T in Columbus, OH]

Did she decide to eliminate the one thing that was keeping her from living a free life, the one thing that Cindy cherished the most... What a selfish, immature, dishonest, and cold-blooded murderer. I obviously do not think she is innocent. I hope I am wrong, but don't think I am.

[Bethany Norcross]

Let the police and detectives give Casey a polygraph, if she refuses then we know the truth. Very simple, just ask her to take one. If the answer is "no" then we have the answer- Caylee is dead by her hand.

[emma]

she will finally confess when she is given immunity or promised no life in prison. then she will tell what happened. until then, nope. she'll keep lying.

[chocolate]

? Why Caylee ?

She has a smile like the sun peeking through storm clouds
And eyes that lights up any room that you enter
With the soul of an Angel and a glow of the midnight star
Where did she take you, she lied so far
Why did she do it, the whole world cares
We want you home safely, when all else fails
Caylee your missing and the world is brewing.
Every News channel, police, and the FBI is on the case
I've being praying everyday that it's not to late.

Written By; Tabra J. Mobley
From Macon, Ga
@ Copyright August 2008

[chocolate]

? Why Caylee ?

She has a smile like the sun peeking through storm clouds
And eyes that lights up any room that you enter
With the soul of an Angel and a glow of the midnight star
Where did she take you, she lied so far
Why did she do it, the whole world cares
We want you home safely, when all else fails
Caylee your missing and the world is brewing.
Every News channel, police, and the FBI is on the case
I've being praying everyday that it's not to late.

Written By; Tabra J. Mobley
From Macon, Ga
@ Copyright August 2008

[chocolate]

? Why Caylee ?

She has a smile like the sun peeking through storm clouds
And eyes that lights up any room that you enter
With the soul of an Angel and a glow of the midnight star
Where did she take you, she lied so far
Why did she do it, the whole world cares
We want you home safely, when all else fails
Caylee your missing and the world is brewing.
Every News channel, police, and the FBI is on the case
I've being praying everyday that it's not to late.

Written By; Tabra J. Mobley
From Macon, Ga
@ Copyright August 2008

[chocolate]

? Why Caylee ?

She has a smile like the sun peeking through storm clouds
And eyes that lights up any room that you enter
With the soul of an Angel and a glow of the midnight star
Where did she take you, she lied so far
Why did she do it, the whole world cares
We want you home safely, when all else fails
Caylee your missing and the world is brewing.
Every News channel, police, and the FBI is on the case
I've being praying everyday that it's not to late.

Written By; Tabra J. Mobley
From Macon, Ga
@ Copyright August 2008

[chocolate]

? Why Caylee ?

She has a smile like the sun peeking through storm clouds
And eyes that lights up any room that you enter
With the soul of an Angel and a glow of the midnight star
Where did she take you, she lied so far
Why did she do it, the whole world cares
We want you home safely, when all else fails
Caylee your missing and the world is brewing.
Every News channel, police, and the FBI is on the case
I've being praying everyday that it's not to late.

Written By; Tabra J. Mobley
From Macon, Ga
@ Copyright August 2008

[LA in Orlando,FL]

Why isn't anyone saying anything about the ex-cop father/grandfather??? This is how I see it going down: Umm...Daddy, I left my baby in the car and she died, I burried her in the back yard with the neighbors shovel..what should I do now? Well honey...let's move the body since this is the first place they will look and when anyone asks you say NOTHING....remember NOTHING!! They can't charge you without any evidence..and then we will leave the car in a public place because then they can't prove it wasn't stolen and used by someone else..And don't tell your Mom, we will need someone to really freak out to buy and sell our story...can you do that honey? Sure Daddy, thanks! ...anyone agree? So far it is working, she will be out of jail in a few days unless they come up with a body...and with a cop's know how...they will never find it. Just my opinion after watching every moment of this whole thing go down.

[grannym]

Considering that gas cans where stolen from the grandparent's property, I believe that this psycho, Casey, has probably burned Caylee's body after committing cold-blooded murder. Her own child....no greater crime or sin exists...I hope she gets the maximum sentence, preferly the death sentenc.

[Gene]

Ex-cop dad isn't an accomplice. He wanted to stick by his daughter, but has realized the truth. He knows Casey did it, and he knows it's too late to save Caylee. But he still loves his daughter, and probably his wife. That's why he's reticent and withdrawn. 2¢

[Karen]

I just had a thought while reading this blog. What if Casey left little Caylee alone so she could out and party? This would explain the wild part pics and why she seems like she doesn't have a care in the world...and this would also explain why it seems so contradictory to statements made about how much she seemed to love her daughter.

I think all this psychoanalyzing may be right, but what if it far simpler than all that? What if she just selfishly went out to party, left the toddler alone and the little girl did as toddlers do and got herself into something, a plastic bag, some medicine, fell down some stairs...who knows...and when Casey came back from her wild night of partying, found her daughter dead and panicked?

I think something like this, or the hot car explanation, fits more with Casey's past and her prior behavior and her current bizarre behavior could be her cheese is slipping off the cracker from guilt?

[skylandia]

This whole family suffers from delusional psychosis. Today (8/5) the Grandmother reported:

" one thing I know for sure is that Casey knows who has Caylee, but she doesn't know where Caylee's at. And I know one thing for sure is that, you know, Casey is determined that she's going to protect Caylee until the end. If it costs her -- you know, her being behind bars the rest for life, she's going to protect Caylee."

This must be a way for the family to accept that the "Angels" have Caylee and Casey will be spending the rest of her life behind bars.

[Amber]

Is it possible that the gas cans that Casey allegedly stole could have been used to burn the babies body after the body was transported from some other location (i.e. backyard)?

Have police investigated any suspicious fires during this timeframe?

I could see her burn the body instead of burying it. The idea of disposing the body in water seems feasible too, but the father described her defensive behavior when trying to get into the trunk of the car. Either the body was back there, or Casey just knew he might find something odd or even smell something since he was a former cop.

[Saddened in O-Town]

Wow, Cindy Anthony really needs to just be quiet. The more the woman talks, the more of an idiot, pathological liar, and accomplice she makes of herself. She is digging her hole deeper and deeper! The whole gas can explanation...are you serious! COME ON...that was ridiculous! It was so ridiculous that she turned away from the camera's. She contradicts herself repeatedly and it's very obvious now that little Caylee has been killed by her mother whether it was intentional or accidental we will learn later. The Anthony's need to, as someone else said above, have "TOUGH LOVE and move in another direction". If you love your granddaughter, give her that respect by her birthday. Your granddaughter is gone and so is your daughter. Anyone who can kill a beautiful child has emotional issues and is already "gone"...let go...if not, Cindy may be prosecuted as well. It's so sad that this little beautiful angel had to go through this with this family, so sad. I cry and pray for her every day and thank God for my daughter and probably give her too many kisses and hugs in light of this case because I'm so thankful she is safe and ok. There is a much bigger judgment for Casey than what will be served in the courtroom - she will get what she deserves. It's just extremely sad that Caylee had to suffer.

[Sean]

Didn't she get a tatoo witht eh same thing, bella vista supposedly when she was "at the beach"?

[Hallie]

T in Columbus, your idea about the polygraph is good but she could decline to take one and it wouldn't necessarily make a difference (although I agree it would make her look more guilty, which I think she is). They are not always allowed as evidence regardless of the results and not everyone believes that they are accurate.

It will be interesting to see how that possibility plays out.

[peggy]

This is one case that really gets on my last nerve as I have had my own experince with psychopaths. She is a text book psychopath, no emotion, not a care about others, people are just pawns and are seen by her as a monitary gain.

It is so obvious that this woman took some part in the death of this child. There is a brick wall here she cannot cross---> the cadaver dogs hit on that car and that yard. Done end of story the rest is just smoke glass and mirrors.

She is a psychopathic lier and manipulator of her Mother especially. She didnt need a babysitter in the first place, as Grandmother would have obviously taken care of the Child.

Casey is so Jelous of that relationship. She would rather leave the child alone in the car as opposed to taking her to her mother for care.

She has always been in the lime light manipulating her parents for her own gain. As indicated with her calls to her mother. Her mother believes all her bull stories. She most likely left the child in the car at the bar, she probably went to motel with someone at the bar came back to car by noon the next day. Found the child dead. Threw her in the trunk.

Why else would she ditch the car?

Then in a panic tried to bury the child in the yard, that didnt work so she put child back in the trunk got the gas cans and most likely burned the child somewhere.

All of her orbital dialog doesnt fool me. She has obviously lived as this sociopath all her life.
Her parents allowed her to blame everything and anything on someone else rather than taking responibility for her actions. This breeds sociopathy. She would probably pass a lie detector test most psychopathic liers do.

Peggy
Nebraska

[JAN]

CAYLEE ANTHONY NEEDS SHERIFF/DETECTIVE HOWARD WELLS 2 FIND THE TRUTH ABOUT HER WHEREABOUTS! Where is Union, South Carolina's Sheriff/Detective HOWARD WELLS, let him talk to Casey! He'll find out what happened to little Caylee Anthony! Sheriff Wells did such a great job with getting a confession out of MURDERER Susan Smith, let him have a "crack" at Ms. Casey Anthony. Remember it only took him 9 DAYS to get a confession out of SUSAN SMITH! SHERIFF/DETECTIVE WELLS PLEASE HELP FIND CAYLEE - WE ARE PRAYING FOR THE SAFE RETURN OF CAYLEE, CAN U PLEASE HELP? SEE IF YOU CAN INTERVIEW/TALK TO CASEY..............

To the Grandparents/Family of Caylee Anthony: I am reeling! I can't sleep nights because I am worried about your GRANDDAUGHTER, you are unbelieveable, I was a Grandmother for the 4th time on July 2, 2008 & if any 1 of my grandchildren were missing for more than 1 minute, I would LITERALLY sit on "MY" child UNTIL I GOT ANSWERS & WE FOUND MY GRANDCHILD!
THESE GRANDPARENTS ARE JUST AS BIG A LOSER'S & LIAR'S AS THEIR DAUGHTER! IT IS SO OBVIOUS THAT THERE IS A COVER UP IN THIS CASE. THE ONLY IMPRESSION I AM GETTING IS THAT THE WHOLE FAMILY IS IN ON THIS 1!

THE GRANDFATHER-THE X COP-KNOWS SOMETHING HE'S NOT TELLING.
THE GRANDMOTHER, SHE CAN TALK IN CIRCLES, CAN'T SHE? SHE MAKES ME DIZZY!! THERE'S AN OLD SAYING, THE APPLE DOESN'T FALL FAR FROM THE TREE!

CAYLEE, WE NEVER MET, BUT I, ALONG WITH THE WHOLE NATION ARE PRAYING FOR YOUR SAFE RETURN............
WELL, THAT PRESENTS ANOTHER PROBLEM............ WILL U, WOULD U, EVER BE SAFE UPON YOUR RETURN TO YOUR DISFUNCTIONAL FAMILY? WOULD U EVER BE SAFE?
GOD SPEED CAYLEE......................I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!

[Erin in Orlando]

How stange that there WAS a Zanida Gonzales who looked at this Sawgrass apartment around the same date. I am dying to figure out this link. Did Casey randomly over hear this lady and follow her? Find a note in a parking lot? Did she look at the apartment around the same time and noted her name off some list? New info leaves many questions.

Will this Zanaida take a polygraph? It sounds like the police have already cleared her, is this true?

Did Casey have a job or not?

Perplexed in Orlando...

[OrlandoGirl]

I live close to Blanchard park, about 2 miles. It is my opinion that Caylee is buried there. It's just a feeling that I got as soon as I heard the call between Caysee and her brother. I really hope this little girl is alive, but like all of you my gut is telling me differently.

[Erin in Orlando]

Did Casey have an e-pass? Her parents lived close to the toll roads and this would be an easy way to track her whereabouts as she was "conducting her own investigation".

[Hallie]

So the Zenaida Gonzalez who looked at the apartment June 17 has been found... no connection whatsoever and her life is being adversely affected because people assume she is involved. Anyone surprised that there is no truth to yet another one of Casey's stories?

Anyone know if Blanchard Park is being investigated? Dogs/digging/anything?

[JAN]

CAYLEE - HAPPY BIRTHDAY HONEY!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY 2 U,
HAPPY BIRTHDAY 2 U,
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAREST CAYLEE,
HAPPY BIRTHDAY 2 U!

OUR NATION IS PRAYING FOR YOUR SAFE RETURN!
GOD SPEED CAYLEE........................

[localbix]

While everyone loves to quickly point fingers at the family member with the most obvious "shaky-hands" qualities (and here it is Casey without a doubt who looks the part of the "crazy" in the family with her acting-out, childish, panicked behaviors) you are missing the most common pattern.

In mental hospitals we got the young adults who set fire to houses, cut themselves, hurt other people and acted irresponsibly... and occasionally were so tuned out or panicked that they even hurt or critically injured someone they loved dearly, like a child or a favorite pet.

But you know what folks? They were the canary in the coal mine. Being more fragile than the monsters or thick-skinned/tuned-out/masked members of their own families, they just "broke" first. The real hurters were in the background pulling strings, looking calm, talking a mile a minute about how screwed up their dear little daughter is. Think about it for more than a minute.

That child Caylee was sleeping in the same bed as her mom - each protecting the other - an infantalized mother and a new generation of endangered girl. I smell a rat. Those grandparents knew the child was missing on the 16th of June or earlier and JUST LIKE CASEY said nothing. What happened since has gotten Casey into the edge of madness if not over. Don't judge - THINK people.

What happened to Casey and Caylee on Father's Day that has every other member of the family talking a blue streak? Except for Cindy's off-script 911 call they sound like they are all coaching one another. Who is really in control here? It is not Casey.

[Lee]

Since Cindy's priority and obsession is apparently her boyfriend, it seems that he could make more headway than anyone in discovering some truths. I wonder if detectives have considered approaching him for help.

[Lori]

The police need to let her out and follow and record her conversations as they did with Scott Peterson....she will definately hang herself that way. Give her the freedom she so craves and she will feel comfortable enough to mess up!!

[Cheri Raye]

Remember....Casey lives in Orlando, Fl. ummm- everglades ring a bell? That whole area is sand muck and wide blade grass. and there are gators. I seriously doubt she even buried the little spirited thing. I am sure she just....well you got to wonder. The whole end of the airport is swamp. My take on this is Ms Casey, wanted her mom to butt out of her life and stop controlling her daughter, Caylee probly only listened to grandma, and so Casey took Caylee away. Then she got angry at something Caylee did and choked the life out of her, like in her little poem, with great power comes consequence, no doubt she felt all too powerful when she did the dirty deed. what is given can be taken away....(I used to tell my kids, I gave you life, I can giveth or take it away....it was an idle threat and they would roll their eyes.....)then the end of her poem everyone lies, everyone dies.....kind of ominous dont you think>? But the very beginning of it since I am disecting this mental thought of Casey's, on the worst of worst days, (dont you think if she did lose control this would be a worst of worst days scenario?) Remember the words spoken....oh yeah, missy Casey and mommy dearest hashed it out big time...
Trust no one only yourself - isnt this what Casey has been doing? She is telling no one about anything, no one is going to know the next move shes going to make until it happens.
shrug...this is in mmho.
One more point...when my son was killed, in 2004 (Army) the first thing I wanted to do was go get a tatoo, its like a way to honor someone - well I feel that she had to address that thought her daughter isnt coming home- by getting a tattoo? I found it odd, found that she has had odd behavior all along. ALONG with her mother. Apples dont fall too far from the tree.

[Lane McCallister]

I am just a Believer. I believe that God knows where his blessed little child is, and I believe that He can direct someone where to look to find her! I also believe that little Kaylee is with our Lord. I have read all of these posts, and found them to be some of the same thoughts that I, myself, have had so many times. The most important thing right now, is to locate the little girl. If all of us, who are so touched and concerned about this child, would reach out in prayer, believing, then God would answer! She will be found with a little bit of faith! Join me, please, in praying for that!

[Sherry C.]

This morning my thoughts went back 15 years when I had to do research on satanism. My brther had taken his then toddler son to a playgound in the neighborhood and discovered satanic symbols scrawled all over the playground. I got hold of a documentary video, of which the title escapes me, that was done by a detective and an ex-satanist. The most bothersome part of the whole video was when the ex-satanist explained in gory detail how they would sacrifice infants and toddlers. I thought, "No! Surely if this were true there would be an outcry!" Then the detective said that police remain hush on this to the public because it is just that horrendous. Most of the children who are kidnapped and/or killed were done by satanists, we just aren't made privy to it. After viewing those pics of Casey on Facebook last night I would not be surprised if this is what happened. Casey seems to have a deep need to belong to this gang of friends that she would stoop as low as they say to. Satanists tend to be emotionaless because what they do in their rituals is so horrible their psyche can't handle it. Sounds like what has happened with Casey to me. I am hoping commentors here will be able to discount this scenario as a possibility. It breaks my heart at the thought of it, yet I can't shake it out of my head.